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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Paul is in the Bible too and he clearly says death entered through Adam.
    Pauls theory was wrong, he didn’t know any better. Paul was never taught by Jesus, he taught his own gospel about the cross as a Pagan sacrifice.

    There was a gospel before the cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caino View Post
    Pauls theory was wrong, he didn’t know any better. Paul was never taught by Jesus, he taught his own gospel about the cross as a Pagan sacrifice.

    There was a gospel before the cross.
    Paul was taught directly by God. Jesus never addressed the subject. Absence of a doctrine does not equal repudiation of it.

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    The earth doesn’t look anything like the Biblical creation story, that’s why Bible worshipers are forced to put so much effort pounding square pegs into round holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caino View Post
    Pauls theory was wrong, he didn’t know any better. Paul was never taught by Jesus, he taught his own gospel about the cross as a Pagan sacrifice.

    There was a gospel before the cross.
    Paul's gospel came directly from God. God is not a pagan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caino View Post
    Pauls theory was wrong, he didn’t know any better. Paul was never taught by Jesus, he taught his own gospel about the cross as a Pagan sacrifice.

    There was a gospel before the cross.
    There was a gospel before the cross and a different gospel was presented to Paul by the resurrected Christ. The old gospel is no longer valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Paul was taught directly by God. Jesus never addressed the subject. Absence of a doctrine does not equal repudiation of it.
    Paul was never taught directly by God, he went off to Arabia for 3 years. If he was taught by God, he wasn’t a very good student, else he would have remained true to the original gospel that the Jews rejected.

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    Paul taught his own opinion, those who adored him put him on a pedestal after he died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caino View Post
    Adam and Eve can no longer use the tree of life and live forever:

    Gen 3:22 ““The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
    So what? That is irrelevant to the FACT that the Bible teaches that Adam and Eve were the FIRST TWO HUMANS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caino View Post
    Humans were already on the earth out in the world, God agrees:

    Gen 4:13. “
    13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

    15 But the Lord said to him, “Not so, anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod,[f] east of Eden.

    17 Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch.
    Adam and Eve had MANY SONS AND DAUGHTERS.

    Cain and his wife were BOTH descendants of Adam and Eve, just like ALL of the rest of us.

    See Genesis 5, -- oh, that's right, you don't believe the Book of Genesis and yet you quote from it.

    You're a loon!
    turbosixx says "Yep. Pentecost was the first time men heard the gospel."
    When corrected, turbsixx says "diversion tactic"
    turbosixx is dishonest.


    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caino View Post
    Paul taught his own opinion, those who adored him put him on a pedestal after he died.
    Paul spoke directly from God. He was an apostle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caino View Post
    Paul was never taught directly by God, he went off to Arabia for 3 years. If he was taught by God, he wasn’t a very good student, else he would have remained true to the original gospel that the Jews rejected.
    I guess you don't realize God gives revelation progressively and gives different instructions to different peoples at different times. God is clear that the old Jewish program is no longer in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    Evolutionary hoaxes are perpetuated by personal gain. If Evolution was a fact, it would be established as such today. The missing links would not ALL be missing.
    Let's test that belief. Give us any two major groups of organisms, said to be evolutionarily connected, that lack transitionals.

    Show us what you have.
    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

    Most people online don't want to be corrected. They do not care about anything that does not agree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    So what? That is irrelevant to the FACT that the Bible teaches that Adam and Eve were the FIRST TWO HUMANS.


    Adam and Eve had MANY SONS AND DAUGHTERS.

    Cain and his wife were BOTH descendants of Adam and Eve, just like ALL of the rest of us.

    See Genesis 5, -- oh, that's right, you don't believe the Book of Genesis and yet you quote from it.

    You're a loon!
    Awwwwww, poor dear, needs to add all kinds of children to Adam to cover the mistakes of the editors.

    Outside of the bubble we have the bones of humans that lived hundreds of thousands of years ago.

    "Mortal man was never the property of the archdeceivers. Jesus did not die to ransom man from the clutch of the apostate rulers and fallen princes of the spheres. The Father in heaven never conceived of such crass injustice as damning a mortal soul because of the evil doing of his ancestors."UB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caino View Post
    Awwwwww, poor dear, needs to add all kinds of children to Adam to cover the mistakes of the editors.
    It's just a fact. I don't care if you like it or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caino View Post
    Outside of the bubble we have the bones of humans that lived hundreds of thousands of years ago.
    Sure we do.
    turbosixx says "Yep. Pentecost was the first time men heard the gospel."
    When corrected, turbsixx says "diversion tactic"
    turbosixx is dishonest.


    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Paul spoke directly from God. He was an apostle.
    Paul was human, capable of imperfection like Peter, Judas or any of the other apostles who were baffled by Jesus at times. Paul never knew Jesus in the flesh.

    "Mortal man was never the property of the archdeceivers. Jesus did not die to ransom man from the clutch of the apostate rulers and fallen princes of the spheres. The Father in heaven never conceived of such crass injustice as damning a mortal soul because of the evil doing of his ancestors."UB

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    I guess you don't realize God gives revelation progressively and gives different instructions to different peoples at different times. God is clear that the old Jewish program is no longer in place.
    I guess you don't realize that the apostles were human, the authors of conflicted scripture were human as well. The men of the church have always been human.

    "Mortal man was never the property of the archdeceivers. Jesus did not die to ransom man from the clutch of the apostate rulers and fallen princes of the spheres. The Father in heaven never conceived of such crass injustice as damning a mortal soul because of the evil doing of his ancestors."UB

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