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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    I'm afraid ICR is not known for their scientific know-how.

    Try this one: https://geomaps.wr.usgs.gov/parks/gtime/ageofearth.html

    Or this one: http://www2.lbl.gov/abc/wallchart/chapters/13/4.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    Sharks have gills. They take in O2 from the water with their gills just like other fish.
    ok i had to look this up. sharks have gills but no gill covers. most fish can sit in one spot and push water down their gills with the gill covers, sharks have to be moving in order to get the water flow. so basically sharks fave turbos and other fish have belt driven blowers.
    now i will throw this back on the evolution track. why did sharks not develop gill covers? maybe they are caught in original sin judgment for Jaws terrorizing that island town? that was one mean shark!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Jennings View Post
    We're on the same page. They "breathe" by getting their oxygen in the way that you described with their gills
    i got mixed up on the gills. that was like 20 years back in HS when i was reading about that stuff in algebra class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaybird View Post
    ok i had to look this up. sharks have gills but no gill covers. most fish can sit in one spot and push water down their gills with the gill covers, sharks have to be moving in order to get the water flow. so basically sharks fave turbos and other fish have belt driven blowers.
    now i will throw this back on the evolution track. why did sharks not develop gill covers? maybe they are caught in original sin judgment for Jaws terrorizing that island town? that was one mean shark!
    Good question.

    Gill covers are present in "bony fish." These bony fish are not as old as the more ancient cartilaginous fishes (sharks, rays, sawfish, and skates). Still older are the jawless fishes, like hagworms. They're gross.

    So sharks didn't start with them like bony fishes, and they haven't been harmed by not having gill covers over the eons so they just never developed them. Just a personal theory, but I think that's probably due to their relationships with remora fish and other tooth/gill "cleaners." These fish live around sharks and live off of the scraps and parasites they pluck from their host. This keeps the shark clean so to speak

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    Good info
    Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6days View Post
    Good info
    No, it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Jennings
    As explained before, you can't get an accurate result from a sample with inadequate C14 to be measured.
    Yes... I believe I explained that to you before.

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    If you date a Dino bone with that method, then you will run the test three times and get three different ages for the sample.
    And that is why the dating of the dino fossils is so interesting. They took samples from different fossils, geographic regions and stratigraphic positions and received concordant results.

    C-14 Results on soft dino tissue is just one more way science helps confirm the truth of God's Word... and exposes the false beliefs in evolutionism.
    Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Easy. We didn't come from monkeys....
    Nobody said that we did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    No, it's not.
    You are asking us to take your word over what these scientist have said. I think you are just being a nay sayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Jennings View Post
    I'm afraid ICR is not known for their scientific know-how.

    Try this one: https://geomaps.wr.usgs.gov/parks/gtime/ageofearth.html

    Or this one: http://www2.lbl.gov/abc/wallchart/chapters/13/4.html
    He is reporting what other scientist have said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    Nobody said that we did.


    Right here.

    Quote Originally Posted by jaybird View Post
    if we came from monkeys why do we still have monkeys?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    Nobody said that we did (Come from monkeys).
    Some have said it is cowardly for evolutionists to shy away from admitting their beliefs.....Evolutionists DO say we came from monkeys.

    The late evolutionary geneticist and Nobel laureate, Hermann J. Muller, writing in the May 1957 issue of Scientific Monthly, blistered his evolutionary colleagues for making such a ridiculous assertion (Teaching that men didn't come from monkeys) rather than simply accepting the fact that monkeys gave rise to apes, which then gave rise to humans.
    It is fashionable in some circles to refer slurringly to the inference that apes were ancestral to man, and to insinuate that it is more proper to say that men and apes, perhaps even men, apes, and monkeys, diverged long ago from a stem form that was more primitive than any of these. This is mere wistful thinking on the part of those who resent too vivid a visualization of their lowly origin and their present-day poor relations (84[5]:250).
    Seven years later, “Mr. Evolution” himself—George Gaylord Simpson of Harvard—was equally outspoken against what he viewed as such a cowardly approach to the discussion of human evolution.
    On this subject, by the way, there has been too much pussyfooting. Apologists emphasize that man cannot be descendant of any living ape—a statement that is obvious to the verge of imbecility—and go on to state or imply that man is not really descended from an ape or monkey at all, but from an earlier common ancestor. In fact, that earlier ancestor would certainly be called an ape or monkey in popular speech by anyone who saw it. Since the terms ape and monkey are defined by popular usage, man’s ancestors were apes or monkeys (or successively both). It is pusillanimous (COWARDLY) if not dishonest for an informed investigator to say otherwise http://espanol.apologeticspress.org/modules.php?name=Read&cat=5&itemid=2081[/url]
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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    He is reporting what other scientist have said.
    Not what the massive majority of scientists say, that's for certain

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6days View Post
    Yes... I believe I explained that to you before.

    And that is why the dating of the dino fossils is so interesting. They took samples from different fossils, geographic regions and stratigraphic positions and received concordant results.

    C-14 Results on soft dino tissue is just one more way science helps confirm the truth of God's Word... and exposes the false beliefs in evolutionism.
    Your study from a creationist source isn't going to cut it. I need a real study from a real publication/organization/university.

    Until you can provide proper sourcing for your claims they are nothing more than that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Jennings View Post
    Your study from a creationist source isn't going to cut it. I need a real study from a real publication/organization/university. Until you can provide proper sourcing for your claims they are nothing more than that
    Darwinists love the genetic fallacy. I think they are fooled by the name.
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