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    If Evolution

    If Evolution was true of this world, it would be a super natural event. Seriously. There would be nothing natural about it. Billions of things would have to take place in order to have what we have today. And yet the Evolutionist say there is no God.

    Isaiah 43:10. so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. Before me no god formed, nor will there be one after me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    If Evolution was true of this world, it would be a super natural event. Seriously. There would be nothing natural about it. Billions of things would have to take place in order to have what we have today. And yet the Evolutionist say there is no God.

    Isaiah 43:10. so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. Before me no god formed, nor will there be one after me.
    Billions of things did happen, but not in order to have what we have today. Of history could be rerun, what we have now would be different, but we'd never know. Evolutionary outcomes are probabilistic, not deterministic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcthomas View Post
    Billions of things did happen, but not in order to have what we have today. Of history could be rerun, what we have now would be different, but we'd never know. Evolutionary outcomes are probabilistic, not deterministic.
    Scripture states that the world was formless and void when before God created the universe. Each step of God's creating took place in the measure of our current standard time measure of one day. But this only serves to clarify for those Christians who tend to hold to the evolution theory...they want to subscribe to both the Creation and the evolution theory. Evolutionists will usually reject Creation out of hand...it requires faith as Hebrews tells us...
    Hebrews 11:3:
    3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at Godís command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

    Faith comes from hearing the message...
    Romans 10:17:
    17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ.

    Our hurdle is finding the atheist willing enough to to hear the message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    If Evolution was true of this world, it would be a super natural event. Seriously. There would be nothing natural about it. Billions of things would have to take place in order to have what we have today. And yet the Evolutionist say there is no God.

    Isaiah 43:10. so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. Before me no god formed, nor will there be one after me.
    I strongly suggest you study evolution by taking as many courses of study that you can afford to take.

    This way you would be less inclined to parrot words from a handout or tract you received in front of Ken ham's monument to man's stupidity : the creation museum or his equally nutty ARK ENCOUNTER fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artur Axmann View Post
    I strongly suggest you study evolution by taking as many courses of study that you can afford to take.

    This way you would be less inclined to parrot words from a handout or tract you received in front of Ken ham's monument to man's stupidity : the creation museum or his equally nutty ARK ENCOUNTER fraud.
    We don't need gospel tracks or anything other thsn God's Word to determine truth. "In six days, God created the heavens and the earth" Ex. 20:11 We can see from scripture that Jesus and others accepted Genesis as literal history.
    Perhaps most important about Genesis is that the gospel is dependent on a literal interpretation. If death existed before first Adam sinned, then the gospel is destroyed and the cross becomes meaningless.
    Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6days View Post
    We don't need gospel tracks or anything other thsn God's Word to determine truth. "In six days, God created the heavens and the earth" Ex. 20:11 We can see from scripture that Jesus and others accepted Genesis as literal history.
    Perhaps most important about Genesis is that the gospel is dependent on a literal interpretation. If death existed before first Adam sinned, then the gospel is destroyed and the cross becomes meaningless.
    Death existed before the first Adam sinned, ergo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6days View Post
    ... If death existed before first Adam sinned, then the gospel is destroyed and the cross becomes meaningless.
    If death didn't exist, how was Adam supposed to understand God's warning about the tree of knowledge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    If death didn't exist, how was Adam supposed to understand God's warning about the tree of knowledge?
    Quite simple... Adam was created as an intelligent human.
    Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6days View Post
    Quite simple... Adam was created as an intelligent human.
    ..who automatically knew everything about everything without any experience or being taught...

    Got it. A miracle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6days View Post
    We don't need gospel tracks or anything other thsn God's Word to determine truth. "In six days, God created the heavens and the earth" Ex. 20:11 We can see from scripture that Jesus and others accepted Genesis as literal history.
    Perhaps most important about Genesis is that the gospel is dependent on a literal interpretation. If death existed before first Adam sinned, then the gospel is destroyed and the cross becomes meaningless.
    The Gospel is not destroyed by pre adamic animal death. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    Romans 5:12

    It says death passed upon all men. It doesn't say all flesh. Don't make the Bible say more than it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6days View Post
    We don't need gospel tracks or anything other thsn God's Word to determine truth. "In six days, God created the heavens and the earth" Ex. 20:11 We can see from scripture that Jesus and others accepted Genesis as literal history.
    Perhaps most important about Genesis is that the gospel is dependent on a literal interpretation. If death existed before first Adam sinned, then the gospel is destroyed and the cross becomes meaningless.
    But than if death existed than who or what was death. Right back to square one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee1 View Post
    But than if death existed than who or what was death. Right back to square one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artur Axmann View Post
    I strongly suggest you study evolution by taking as many courses of study that you can afford to take.

    This way you would be less inclined to parrot words from a handout or tract you received in front of Ken ham's monument to man's stupidity : the creation museum or his equally nutty ARK ENCOUNTER fraud.
    Ah, well. You've not been here long enough to know that such suggestions are not likely to be useful to those whose theology requires them to have a literal Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    If Evolution was true of this world, it would be a super natural event. Seriously. There would be nothing natural about it. Billions of things would have to take place in order to have what we have today. And yet the Evolutionist say there is no God.

    Isaiah 43:10. so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. Before me no god formed, nor will there be one after me.
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    I seen a report on tv that Michigan university proved evolution was a hoax. I read about it on the net, but this was about ten years ago.

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