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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    then you should be in favor of regulating barstools
    If they were designed to kill bar flies you'd actually have a point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    quip hastily moves the goalposts:

    not their fellow citizens
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    If they were designed to kill bar flies you'd actually have a point.
    so your problem with guns is that they were designed to kill humans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    so your problem with guns is that they were designed to kill humans?
    Nope. Against them being put into the hands of those idiots most attracted to such designs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Nope. Against them being put into the hands of those idiots most attracted to such designs.
    so how do you regulate that?

    how do you identify "those idiots most attracted to such designs"?


    my father's been a gun owner all his life, as a kid, even before he joined the military at 18. At some points in his life he's owned many dozens of guns, down to just a few special ones now that he's 92.

    Safe to say he's attracted to them

    and yet, he's always been a responsible gun owner and user, never had an accident or close call, never shot up a school yard or committed mass murder in a bar or restaurant

    would you describe him as an idiot attracted to those designs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    so how do you regulate that?
    By banning them from the general population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    By banning them from the general population.
    would that include my dad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    would that include my dad?
    Yep
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Which is it?
    Both.

    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    therefore quip should be illegal
    According to the standards you apparently hold.
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Yep
    One of the first things oppressive government regimes do is take away the guns of their citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    One of the first things oppressive government regimes do is take away the guns of their citizens.
    And one of the most successful things any democracy does, in terms of protecting citizens from gun violence, is heavily restrict the sorts of weapons that are introduced into the stream of commerce, along with supportive items like bump stocks, speed loaders, and large clips.

    And those governments enjoy every right you can think of, except the right to own the sort of weapons that jeopardize the safety of your neighbor without rational justification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    And...
    If you want to agree, just say so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    One of the first things oppressive government regimes do is take away the guns of their citizens.
    quip would take them away from my father, a veteran, who has been the very model of responsible gun ownership for over eighty years

    or rather, he would "ban from the general population" my father, a veteran, who has been the very model of responsible gun ownership for over eighty years


    if ever there was a demonstration for the need for the NRA, this is it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    And one of the most successful things any democracy does, in terms of protecting citizens from gun violence, is heavily restrict the sorts of weapons that are introduced into the stream of commerce, along with supportive items like bump stocks, speed loaders, and large clips.
    RE Democracy

    Do citizens have the right to make, purchase, and use nuclear weapons?

    And those governments enjoy every right you can think of, except the right to own the sort of weapons that jeopardize the safety of your neighbor without rational justification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    By banning them from the general population.
    Gun control itself is not indicative of despotism, HOWEVER, it is one (critical) step in the move to disarm the general public - which is a hallmark of tyrannical government.

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