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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    Unobstructed by demons and opinions of men?

    I would hope so. Thank you for the compliment.

    By being as you are... you miss that Sonnet desires Jesus Christ... but is searching. You wicked servant... you bury the Lords investment...
    You say he is seeking. Scripture says that none seek Him, no not one. I know for an absolute fact that I didn't and wouldn't seek Him, but He who came to seek and to save that which is lost sought and saved me...


    You are sonnet are the same person.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    You say he is seeking. Scripture says that none seek Him, no not one. I know for an absolute fact that I didn't and wouldn't seek Him, but He who came to seek and to save that which is lost sought and saved me...


    You are sonnet are the same person.
    Deuteronomy 4:29 But if from there you seek the Lord your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul.

    Well... what do you know... Truster ... IS... A Liar...

    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    Deuteronomy 4:29 But if from there you seek the Lord your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul.

    Well... what do you know... Truster ... IS... A Liar...

    That was spoken to His chosen people and not to the nations of the world....wake up EE or sonnet or whatever you are.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    That was spoken to His chosen people and not to the nations of the world....wake up EE or sonnet or whatever you are.
    Malachi 1:5 Your own eyes shall see this, and you shall say, “Great is the LORD beyond the border of Israel!”

    And thanks for slamming supersessionism...

    I agree... those words were spoken to Israel... the chosen... and Israel remains Israel...

    Now understand Matthew 5:14 in relation to Israel’s commission to bring in Gentiles... and see if something clicks that shatters your assertions of elitism...
    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    Malachi 1:5 Your own eyes shall see this, and you shall say, “Great is the LORD beyond the border of Israel!”

    And thanks for slamming supersessionism...

    I agree... those words were spoken to Israel... the chosen... and Israel remains Israel...

    Now understand Matthew 5:14 in relation to Israel’s commission to bring in Gentiles... and see if something clicks that shatters your assertions of elitism...
    You are going around in circles trying to prove a point that you can't. Now you expect me to jump through hoops. I saw your deceit when you were pretending to be sonnet a few days ago and I've been playing you along. You are filled with deceit and as of now I'm putting you on ignore.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    This message is hidden because Evil.Eye.<(I)> is on your ignore list.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    You are going around in circles trying to prove a point that you can't. Now you expect me to jump through hoops. I saw your deceit when you were pretending to be sonnet a few days ago and I've been playing you along. You are filled with deceit and as of now I'm putting you on ignore.


    Except... The Sonnet part... you lack his simple ability to remain subjective and open minded...
    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    This message is hidden because Evil.Eye.<(I)> is on your ignore list.
    Trusterís listening skills...

    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    Deuteronomy 4:29 But if from there you seek the Lord your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul.

    Well... what do you know... Truster ... IS... A Liar...

    Yep. There are many verses about seeking God.
    1 Corinthians 15:1-2 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV -


    Colossians 1:13-14 KJV - Colossians 1:15-16 KJV - Colossians 1:17-18 KJV -

    Colossians 1:19-20 KJV - Colossians 1:21-22 KJV - Colossians 1:23 KJV -

    Colossians 1:25-26 KJV 27, 28, 29 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Ephesians 1:12-13, 14 -



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    So I wouldn't be out of line in saying that two different Gospels are preached by Christians (albeit that the Calvinist one has to be extracted under interrogation)?

    Gospel 1:
    Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, was buried and was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures...believe in Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved...

    Gospel 2:
    The above with the proviso that 'our' are the elect and you will only believe if God predetermined that you would (justification for such choice being founded on the fact that all men are so totally depraved that none would ever choose God anyway - so the Good News is that at least He chose some).

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    On the TOL Statement of Faith page it says:

    For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate; He suffered death and was buried.

    I am wondering who 'our' are (and asked as much on the thread).

    Of course, it does means believers (since it's a statement of faith) - but would TOL admin be willing to say if it includes all people in its provision?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    I can preach all scripture and point to Christís unconditional love.

    Romans 12:19-20 gives the Esau verse deeper context... God breaks the hardened and lavishes the weak with His Love.

    The word that is ďhateĒ is to persecute... Godís indiscriminate Love is persecution to the Hateful and hardened and thus it is as if it were Hate...
    You don't consider the language of Romans 9 in any way difficult? Calvinism rests on such verses...and Ephesians 1, Romans 8:28-30 etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    You say he is seeking. Scripture says that none seek Him, no not one. I know for an absolute fact that I didn't and wouldn't seek Him, but He who came to seek and to save that which is lost sought and saved me...
    .

    You're quite okay with a God whom you think chooses whomever He wishes to save and passes by the rest? How is this harmonised with the love of God expressed in 1 John 4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnet View Post
    .

    You're quite okay with a God whom you think chooses whomever He wishes to save and passes by the rest? How is this harmonised with the love of God expressed in 1 John 4?
    You have the same ignorant literary style as your alter ego. The manner in which you ask a question shows you have an underlying deceit that turns the question into a statement. You are not inquiring, you are accusing.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    You have the same ignorant literary style as your alter ego. The manner in which you ask a question shows you have an underlying deceit that turns the question into a statement. You are not inquiring, you are accusing.
    Why do you hate so, Truster?

    Calvinists aver that God chooses whomever He wishes and is justified in doing so because we are so totally depraved that we deserve nothing; that He chooses anyone is the Good News and humanity should be grateful for as much.

    Is this incorrect?

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