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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnet View Post
    Christianity is in schism to the extent that the Gospel isn't defined.
    Is it wise to allow both Arminians and Calvinists to be considered Christians?
    There is no schism in the ecclesia there are only those that come in by another way to oppose the truth. They come to tear and maim as you do. We* however have this guarantee:

    "...I will build my ecclesia; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it".



    We* the redeemed, regenerate and repentant sinners, amen, amen and amen.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    The feeling you now have is one of tribulation and anguish. You are not in control and for the likes of you that is insufferable. Things are not going the way you carefully planned in your imagination and nobody is taking the bait.

    The annoyance you feel is bordering on violence and you'll be seeking someone to blame. Don't kick the dog. Don't beat your wife/girlfriend/partner/lodger or children.

    Go look in the mirror and you'll see Adam...
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    The feeling you now have is one of tribulation and anguish. You are not in control and for the likes of you that is insufferable. Things are not going the way you carefully planned in your imagination and nobody is taking the bait.

    The annoyance you feel is bordering on violence and you'll be seeking someone to blame. Don't kick the dog. Don't beat your wife/girlfriend/partner/lodger or children.

    Go look in the mirror and you'll see Adam...
    This? - when all I asked was if you agreed with Paul's definition of the Gospel? A 'yes' or 'no' would have been enough.

    If you are going to post please keep it relevant to the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnet View Post
    This? - when all I asked was if you agreed with Paul's definition of the Gospel? A 'yes' or 'no' would have been enough.

    If you are going to post please keep it relevant to the OP.
    All my posts are relevant to the Truth and are in answer to the OP. The problem arises because you don't understand your questions.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnet View Post
    I am a non-believer interested in knowing what the good news is. I ask because, in my experience, Christians do not seem to agree on the specifics. One might point to the issue of the scope of Christ's salvific provision as being particularly relevant.

    If the Gospel isn't clearly defined then, surely, the non-believer may legitimately ask, 'Believe in what?'
    When you say that you are a "non-believer" what is it that you can't believe?

    You see my problem don't you. One minute you say you are a non-believer and the next minute you are asking what you should believe?

    I use the term believe guardedly because it should be "trust". As in you can't trust.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    When you say that you are a "non-believer" what is it that you can't believe?
    Nobody can believe in that which is undefined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnet View Post
    Nobody can believe in that which is undefined.
    You haven't said what it is you can't believe. You've said why, but not what.

    Lets make it simple:

    Do you believe in the creation and sustaining of all that exists?

    Do you think that a big bang occurred and that everything evolved?

    Multiple choice is so much easier...
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    You haven't said what it is you can't believe.
    I asked you if you thought 1 Corinthians 15:3-8 was the Gospel - the Gospel unbelievers are invited to believe, but you wouldn't answer.

    Did Christ die for all men without exception?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnet View Post
    I asked you if you thought 1 Corinthians 15:3-8 was the Gospel - the Gospel unbelievers are invited to believe, but you wouldn't answer.

    Did Christ die for all men without exception?
    You've declared that you are a non-believer. Are you asking me to convince you about the existence of something that you don't believe in? Because that is as BIG a contradiction as I have ever heard.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    You haven't said what it is you can't believe. You've said why, but not what.

    Lets make it simple:

    Do you believe in the creation and sustaining of all that exists?

    Do you think that a big bang occurred and that everything evolved?

    Multiple choice is so much easier...
    In case you missed it.

    Do you believe in the creation and sustaining of all that exists?

    Do you think that a big bang occurred and that everything evolved?
    Last edited by Truster; September 30th, 2017 at 02:52 AM. Reason: In case he missed it.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    You've declared that you are a non-believer. Are you asking me to convince you about the existence of something that you don't believe in? Because that is as BIG a contradiction as I have ever heard.
    Romans 15:20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    In case you missed it.

    Do you believe in the creation and sustaining of all that exists?

    Do you think that a big bang occurred and that everything evolved?
    It would be more relevant to the thread for you to respond to my question regarding 1 Cor 15:3-8 - whether it's the Gospel. I have asked many times. Why you wont, as a follower of Christ, answer is baffling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    In case you missed it.

    Do you believe in the creation and sustaining of all that exists?

    Do you think that a big bang occurred and that everything evolved?
    CALM DOWN AND ANSWER THE QUESTION.


    Please excuse the large print. Just imagine a T-shirt.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnet View Post
    It would be more relevant to the thread for you to respond to my question regarding 1 Cor 15:3-8 - whether it's the Gospel. I have asked many times. Why you wont, as a follower of Christ, answer is baffling.
    Until I have the answer to the creation/big bang question I can't answer.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    PS The nebular depicted in your avatar. Is that due to the fourth day of creation or a big BANG?

    There's that multiple choice again. I hope I'm not going to have to get the crayons out...?
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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