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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    On the contrary. All of this is spread out in many threads. Feel free to post examples of racism. My examples will go beyond posts by @intojoy but his racism should be exposed and discussed...
    He just says that stuff to be funny, at the same time he makes some very good and valid points about how blacks oppress themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    I still can't believe you cannot distinguish the simple concept of the difference in hating what a single black man did compared to the whole race of blacks.

    I mean, if you can be racist against a single black man, but not all blacks, then I doubt anyone alive isn't a racist against someone.
    I know there is a difference..I never claimed the guy who said it was a racist, and I'm certain Wiz didn't either. My objection is his word choice, which was wrong. The word ****** has been a nasty word to use on a PERSON of the opposite color since it was first said. It depreciates the person....as does mother ******. Why don't we start using that word as well. It has no meaning I guess.
    Contrary to what many Americans seem to think, the document we now call "the Constitution" and the Declaration of Independence are not pretty much the same thing or "connected in spirit," or "two sides of the same coin." The two documents were written by two different groups of people at two different times to accomplish two totally different goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    He just says that stuff to be funny,
    Another wow....
    Contrary to what many Americans seem to think, the document we now call "the Constitution" and the Declaration of Independence are not pretty much the same thing or "connected in spirit," or "two sides of the same coin." The two documents were written by two different groups of people at two different times to accomplish two totally different goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    It has never been an issue for me where I live.
    The neighborhood I live in now has black, whites, and Mexicans.
    We all use the idioms for those groups, and we think nothing of it.

    Perhaps it would be more beneficial to suggest everyone live as me and my neighbors do, and not make more of it than what it is.
    Instead of trying to convince everyone that only monsters use those words.
    My neighborhood is pretty peaceful and we have fun together and help each other.


    I mean, when you get right down to it, ****** just means black person, just like cracker just means white person.
    The nigga words means nothing today, they use it with each other all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    The nigga words means nothing today, they use it with each other all the time.
    So what....if I wanna hear it, I would go to the ghetto.
    Contrary to what many Americans seem to think, the document we now call "the Constitution" and the Declaration of Independence are not pretty much the same thing or "connected in spirit," or "two sides of the same coin." The two documents were written by two different groups of people at two different times to accomplish two totally different goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Then what does ****** and cracker mean to you?
    Both are derrogrotory terms used to deride an individual based on the color of their skin.

    To me, it means black and white.
    Word meanings change over time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    I know there is a difference.
    Great.

    I never claimed the guy who said it was a racist,
    Cool. I don't think he's racist either.

    Are you about protecting truth, or protecting feelings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Great.

    Cool. I don't think he's racist either.
    Good, but you KNOW what he said was wrong..
    Contrary to what many Americans seem to think, the document we now call "the Constitution" and the Declaration of Independence are not pretty much the same thing or "connected in spirit," or "two sides of the same coin." The two documents were written by two different groups of people at two different times to accomplish two totally different goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    Word meanings change over time...
    By what authority?

    I mean, my name is Sissy.
    That term can have a lot of different meanings.
    I don't get upset over the term being said out loud.
    Life is a whole lot more peaceful that way.
    Everyone should try it, and stop raising a stink about every little thing as if society if going to fall apart over such trivial things.

    Are you about protecting truth, or protecting feelings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    Word meanings change over time...
    Then it can change again.
    Let's change it back to meaning 'black person'.
    Easy peasy.
    One less thing to get riled about.

    Are you about protecting truth, or protecting feelings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    So what....if I wanna hear it, I would go to the ghetto.
    One could argue that your use of the word 'ghetto' is racist.
    But I sure ain't gonna waste my time worrying about it.

    Are you about protecting truth, or protecting feelings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Good, but you KNOW what he said was wrong..
    Or you are just over reacting and won't allow the word to mean anything other than a meaning of your choice.
    There are lots of folks that don't choose to restrict it's meaning as much as you do.
    You can remove the sting of the word without removing the word itself.
    My neighborhood does that.
    We use all the idioms - tar baby, jigaboo, blackie, etc.
    We completely remove the sting.
    And we make fun of folks that go berserk over such things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    All of this is in another thread.
    Why are you copy/pasting it here?
    It's a Call Out Thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    It's a Call Out Thread.
    Oh boy, those always go so well.
    Usually they backfire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    A white man calling a black man is not a racist comment?
    It's a matter of intent. It can be a descriptive, an insult, or a term of endearment.

    Women are called lots of names, as are men. Are we going to whine and cry over names?

    Yes, I know....the libs will whine and cry over anything. They get such hurt feelings.

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