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    Quote Originally Posted by intojoy View Post
    Black hoods are dangers my nigs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Intojoy has expressed concern about the black community in his area.
    The crime rate.
    The fatherless rate.
    The welfare rate.

    Sounds more like legitimate concerns than it is racism.

    Are you against talking about those concerns?
    Could have fooled me with those comments and his way of avoiding the TOL censor..
    Contrary to what many Americans seem to think, the document we now call "the Constitution" and the Declaration of Independence are not pretty much the same thing or "connected in spirit," or "two sides of the same coin." The two documents were written by two different groups of people at two different times to accomplish two totally different goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Intojoy has expressed concern about the black community in his area.
    He lives in Hawaii.

    The crime rate.
    The fatherless rate.
    The welfare rate.

    Sounds more like legitimate concerns than it is racism.

    Are you against talking about those concerns?
    Of course not. Are you going to say that none of his comments are racist in nature? His racism distracts from the topics that matter. He trivializes them by being racist. You cannot combat racism with counter-racism.

    Just like what Yusra Khogali tweeted was racist. Do you condemn her racism? Stop playing tribalism and be even and fair in what you will criticize.

    I did ask you two questions in the next post:

    Was it racist for Paul Smith to call Mike Tomlin a "no good ******"?

    Why does TOL auto censor the word ****** in the first place?
    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    @Tambora @steko

    Do you agree with the comments of @intojoy that I've posted?

    Was it racist for Paul Smith to call Mike Tomlin a "no good ******"?

    Edit: why does TOL auto censor the word ****** in the first place?
    I've read most of Intojoys posts on this site.
    I've seen him complain about black people, and give stats and the reasons for his complaints of them.
    Stats is stats.
    Stats is not racism.

    Are you about protecting truth, or protecting feelings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    I've read most of Intojoys posts on this site.
    I've seen him complain about black people, and give stats and the reasons for his complaints of them.
    Stats is stats.
    Stats is not racism.
    Did you miss his niggas thing he has going on, an oversight perhaps?
    Contrary to what many Americans seem to think, the document we now call "the Constitution" and the Declaration of Independence are not pretty much the same thing or "connected in spirit," or "two sides of the same coin." The two documents were written by two different groups of people at two different times to accomplish two totally different goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    I've read most of Intojoys posts on this site.
    I've seen him complain about black people, and give stats and the reasons for his complaints of them.
    Stats is stats.
    Stats is not racism.
    Well now you understand one of the reasons behind the creation of this thread. I am not talking about stats, Tambora. Do you agree with the specific statements of his that I've quoted in this thread or not?

    Condemn or condone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post

    Was it racist for Paul Smith to call Mike Tomlin a "no good ******"?
    Unless Paul thinks all blacks are no good just for being black, then no.
    I think he was upset with the individual's actions, not the individual's race.
    He would have been upset with that action no matter what the race of the individual was.

    Are you about protecting truth, or protecting feelings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by intojoy View Post
    slavery was a blessing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Unless Paul thinks all blacks are no good just for being black, then no.
    I think he was upset with the individual's actions, not the individual's race.
    He would have been upset with that action no matter what the race of the individual was.
    A white man calling a black man is not a racist comment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Unless Paul thinks all blacks are no good just for being black, then no.
    I think he was upset with the individual's actions, not the individual's race.
    He would have been upset with that action no matter what the race of the individual was.
    Wow..
    Contrary to what many Americans seem to think, the document we now call "the Constitution" and the Declaration of Independence are not pretty much the same thing or "connected in spirit," or "two sides of the same coin." The two documents were written by two different groups of people at two different times to accomplish two totally different goals.

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    @Tambora - when is racism not a bad thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Did you miss his niggas thing he has going on, an oversight perhaps?
    Where I was raised, using terms like ****** and cracker were not offensive.
    They were merely idioms to express if you were talking about a black or white person.
    So no one made any big deal of it.
    The whites had idioms like cracker, pale face, whitey, snowflake, etc., that we even used for ourselves.
    All of which just meant "white".
    We were not offended to be called by any term that meant "white" because we were, well, white.
    We might all be in a group for some party or event, and one would say "This cracker is heading home", and another might say "This ****** has had enough beer".

    So when someone like me that has grown up in that background; when I see folks making a fuss about it, I see it as cry baby whining of making a mountain out of a mole hill.
    I don't see it as any good reason to start a riot or a national protest.

    Are you about protecting truth, or protecting feelings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    @Tambora - when is racism not a bad thing?
    I don't see anything wrong with wanting to be more tribal and territorial.
    In fact, I think that is more natural than this multicultural gobblidygoop going on.

    Are you about protecting truth, or protecting feelings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Wow..
    Well, are you under the impression he was speaking against all blacks, or just against the one individual that did not stand for the anthem?

    Are you about protecting truth, or protecting feelings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with wanting to be more tribal and territorial.
    In fact, I think that is more natural than this multicultural gobblidygoop going on.
    That doesn't answer the question. When is racism not a bad thing?
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