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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Poor blind fool does not believe that Jesus atoned for the sins of the whole world.

    "And he is a propitiation for our sin: and not ours only, BUT ALSO FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD" 1 John 2:2

    Poor blind fool is now without an excuse.
    You dont even believe Christs death saves !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The Gospel is that God justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. Which you don't believe.
    You teach that sinners Christ reconciled to God are still lost and condemned !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You teach that sinners Christ reconciled to God are still lost and condemned !
    Why did you just lie?

    Paul begged the lost, on God's behalf, to BE reconciled to Him. Paul did not say they already had been reconciled.

    Do you look forward to being cast into the Lake of Fire? Because that's where all liars will end up, liar.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    [most will be very surprised]


    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Of all of the phony religions Calvinism is the easiest one to refute.
    Only once you learn to see past the deliberately impenetrable smokescreen of vain philosophy, yes. But until you do, it can seem unassailable. You KNOW there's something very off about it but it's so massive and sprawling, you don't know where to begin to get a handle on it.

    That's why going back to the nature of God, as revealed in the Bible and contrasted with the Calvinistic depiction of God, cuts through all the smog and is the best and most effective shortcut.

    God, in the BIble, cannot lie.

    God, according to Calvinism, lies about many things, as does Christ, too.

    Both cannot be true, therefore one must be false.


    Bingo bango, done.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    The Gospel is that God justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. Which you don't believe.
    You teach that sinners which are complete in Jesus Christ, still are lost and condemned !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Only once you learn to see past the deliberately impenetrable smokescreen of vain philosophy, yes. But until you do, it can seem unassailable. You KNOW there's something very off about it but it's so massive and sprawling, you don't know where to begin to get a handle on it.

    That's why going back to the nature of God, as revealed in the Bible and contrasted with the Calvinistic depiction of God, cuts through all the smog and is the best and most effective shortcut.

    God, in the BIble, cannot lie.

    God, according to Calvinism, lies about many things, as does Christ, too.

    Both cannot be true, therefore one must be false.


    Bingo bango, done.

    Right, Calvinism is also self defeating. It requires you to believe that God is an unjust, unmerciful tyrant that condemns people to hell before they are born. It is not possible to believe that about God and be saved.

    As if that was not bad enough, it also requires you to believe that Jesus was a failure. He did not atone for the sins of the whole world, therefore he is not Lord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
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    You teach that sinners which are complete in Jesus Christ, still are lost and condemned !
    Poor blind fool cannot read or understand the scripture. If you are complete in Jesus you are eternally saved, Colossians 2:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Poor blind fool cannot read or understand the scripture. If you are complete in Jesus you are eternally saved, Colossians 2:10.
    With your careless false teaching, you teach that sinners Christ died for and made complete, perfect, that they are still unjust, condemned and lost !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Right, Calvinism is also self defeating. It requires you to believe that God is an unjust, unmerciful tyrant that condemns people to hell before they are born. It is not possible to believe that about God and be saved.

    As if that was not bad enough, it also requires you to believe that Jesus was a failure. He did not atone for the sins of the whole world, therefore he is not Lord.
    pateism makes God unjust, in that it teaches that sinners Christ died for, satisfied Gods Law and Justice for, are still lost, and condemned and under Gods wrath anyway !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    pateism makes God unjust, in that it teaches that sinners Christ died for, satisfied Gods Law and Justice for, are still lost, and condemned and under Gods wrath anyway !
    Poor blind fool believes in a God that does not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Poor blind fool believes in a God that does not exist.
    Thats an insult to God in Christ to teach as you do that sinners Christ died for are still condemned by God, even after Christ has satisfied Gods law and Justice for the. That makes God serve, unmerciful and unjust !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Thats an insult to God in Christ to teach as you do that sinners Christ died for are still condemned by God, even after Christ has satisfied Gods law and Justice for the. That makes God serve, unmerciful and unjust !

    You have faith in a God that is not in the Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You have faith in a God that is not in the Bible.
    You make God unjust and Christ death worthless.
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
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    B57 believes salvation does not require faith. God says it does. Christ said it does. The apostles taught it does.

    B57 has a non-Christian religion.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    B57 believes salvation does not require faith. God says it does. Christ said it does. The apostles taught it does.

    B57 has a non-Christian religion.

    This is why he has trouble with it. The words "faith" and "believe" appear in the Bible hundreds of times.

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