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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Here is the crux of the Gospel.
    What is the purpose of salvation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    What is the purpose of salvation?

    God is just, merciful and righteous and is not willing that any should perish, 2 Peter 3:9.

    He has done all that he can do to save us. But he will not believe for us, that is something that we have to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishrovmen View Post
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    You brought it up, now you need to read it and comment on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    God is just, merciful and righteous and is not willing that any should perish, 2 Peter 3:9.

    He has done all that he can do to save us. But he will not believe for us, that is something that we have to do.
    Do you know the purpose of salvation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Do you know the purpose of salvation?

    The word "salvation" means that we have been delivered from something. In this case it means that we have been delivered from the penalty of sin. Sin is the transgression of God's law, 1 John 3:4. Since all have sinned, Romans 3:10. All stand before God as guilty, Romans 3:19. The purpose of salvation is to deliver us from the law. Where there is no law there is no sin or judgment, Romans 7:6. This is why the law has been abolished for the Christian, Ephesians 2:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The word "salvation" means that we have been delivered from something. In this case it means that we have been delivered from the penalty of sin. Sin is the transgression of God's law, 1 John 3:4. Since all have sinned, Romans 3:10. All stand before God as guilty, Romans 3:19. The purpose of salvation is to deliver us from the law. Where there is no law there is no sin or judgment, Romans 7:6. This is why the law has been abolished for the Christian, Ephesians 2:15.
    The law is simply a mirror that shows us things we need to correct.

    That's why we use mirrors, to see how we look.

    Without law you don't know how you look to God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    The law is simply a mirror that shows us things we need to correct.

    That's why we use mirrors, to see how we look.

    Without law you don't know how you look to God.

    The law shows us that we are sinners and need a savior. It is our schoolmaster that brings us to Christ, Galatians 3:24.

    But after faith is come we no longer need the law, Galatians 3:25.

    This is why Paul wrote, "The Just Shall Live By Faith" Romans 1:17.

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    The word "salvation" means that we have been delivered from something. In this case it means that we have been delivered from the penalty of sin.
    Well you obviously dont believe Christ death alone saved them He died for from the penalty of sin since you teach sinners He died for shall go into the second death, which means they die in their sins. The wages of sin is death !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The law shows us that we are sinners and need a savior. It is our schoolmaster that brings us to Christ, Galatians 3:24.
    The Mosaic law is not applicable today and is not our schoolmaster.

    That law ended 70 CE after Paul was dead.

    There is another law that applies to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You brought it up, now you need to read it and comment on it.
    Tried that for many years, only to find what almost everyone else has found, which is evasion, deflection, personal opinions about my beliefs and your declaration that just by asking questions I am "void of the Spirit", "lost","Calvinist", follower of a heretic etc.
    And just as you have shown here, another thread with the same title and basic content.
    The question I have is this:
    Why start another thread that says the same thing instead of engaging the previous one?
    You have had several threads now with the same titles and content.
    You can bump the one thread by engaging people to keep it going rather than start a duplicate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishrovmen View Post
    Tried that for many years, only to find what almost everyone else has found, which is evasion, deflection, personal opinions about my beliefs and your declaration that just by asking questions I am "void of the Spirit", "lost","Calvinist", follower of a heretic etc.
    And just as you have shown here, another thread with the same title and basic content.
    The question I have is this:
    Why start another thread that says the same thing instead of engaging the previous one?
    You have had several threads now with the same titles and content.
    You can bump the one thread by engaging people to keep it going rather than start a duplicate.

    Because you are religious you like to hear about religious things.

    I am not religious. I am anti-religion and pro-Gospel. Religion is about you. The Gospel is about Jesus Christ.

    In the Gospel Jesus justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

    You don't believe that, if you did you would be a Christian.

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