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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross Reference View Post
    Paul here is speaking of God, not Jesus. Jesus was not and is not invisible.
    Is Jesus Spirit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the589 View Post
    I don't think G-d is with him because He is sinless but because it was the will of G-d and prophecy to bring the messiah into this world

    It's not biblical to say Jesus is G-d but what is is to say Jesus is the son of G-d. Anyway I don't have a problem
    The Bible shows us that God the Father came as a Son in the flesh.

    The Bible shows us that Jesus is God the Father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Is Jesus Spirit?
    Jesus has his own Spirit within him.

    His Spirit is the Spirit of God.

    Our spirit is the spirit of ourselves; but, and, we are given the Spirit of God to live with our spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus has his own Spirit within him.

    His Spirit is the Spirit of God.

    Our spirit is the spirit of ourselves; but, and, we are given the Spirit of God to live with our spirit.
    It was a yes or no question.

    It sounds like your answer is no.

    Jesus is Spirit. That simplifies it for you.

    Spirit is not material, you can't see it with human eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    The Bible shows us that God the Father came as a Son in the flesh.

    The Bible shows us that Jesus is God the Father.
    I guess i'm more literal. I mean there's many more verses but just a few

    Acts 8:37
    Mark 1:1
    Matthew 27:43
    John 1:34
    John 1:49
    John 10:36

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Is Jesus Spirit?
    I repeat, No. He was MADE little lower than the angels, remember. Are angels spirit?
    "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    The Bible shows us that God the Father came as a Son in the flesh.

    The Bible shows us that Jesus is God the Father.
    Where does it say that? I read the "Word became flesh" but, not the Father became flesh. That will come later for Him when the future Heaven and Earth become a reality per Isaiah 9:6 KJV.
    "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross Reference View Post
    Where does it say that? I read the "Word became flesh" but, not the Father became flesh. That will come later for Him when the future Heaven and Earth become a reality per Isaiah 9:6 KJV.
    What about Numbers 23:19 . The Son of Man is Jesus. Isaiah is messianic prophecy, but note; will be called as such meaning it is prophecy Jesus will be called G-d

    So i'm saying G-d is not man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross Reference View Post
    I repeat, No. He was MADE little lower than the angels, remember. Are angels spirit?
    "And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!" (Revelation 22:17)

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    Quote Originally Posted by the589 View Post
    I guess i'm more literal. I mean there's many more verses but just a few

    Acts 8:37
    Mark 1:1
    Matthew 27:43
    John 1:34
    John 1:49
    John 10:36
    Jesus is God the Father come as the Son of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    It was a yes or no question.

    It sounds like your answer is no.

    Jesus is Spirit. That simplifies it for you.

    Spirit is not material, you can't see it with human eyes.
    So you don't believe humans have a spirit, their own spirit inside of them?

    A see-through spirit that looks like them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross Reference View Post
    I repeat, No. He was MADE little lower than the angels, remember. Are angels spirit?
    All humans have spirits that live inside their flesh bodies.

    Jesus had his own Spirit within him. It was and is the Spirit of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross Reference View Post
    Where does it say that? I read the "Word became flesh" but, not the Father became flesh. That will come later for Him when the future Heaven and Earth become a reality per Isaiah 9:6 KJV.
    The child has already been born. He was born to Mary.

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    [QUOTE=God's Truth;5097212]

    And? What does that have to do what we are discussing, what you wrote?

    Jesus was a human. Human's have their own spirit. Jesus' was sinless. He also was indwelt by the "Word of God" by the Holy Spirit conception. Now that tells me had (2) spirits that were IN Him, one of Holy Spirit. The other of Adam.
    "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus is God the Father come as the Son of God.
    A better way is to say G-d send Jesus his only begotten Son. 1 John 4:9

    There's also 2 Chronicles 6:18

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