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    1970 global cooling




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    Quote Originally Posted by way 2 go View Post
    1970 global cooling

    The Ossowo (Mich) Argus Press - is that peer reviewed?

    Don't you have something from Nature or Scientific American?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcthomas View Post
    Gore getting all excitable isn't evidence that the climate isn't changing, is it? The global temperatures are still rising, whether you like it or not. I certainly don't like it at all, but facing up to our responsibilities as Earth's custodians isn't meant to make is comfortable, is it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    I don't follow or support Rush or Alex Jones, I though this was more about overall climate change, I didn't know he called it a conspiracy. The fact is, climate change believers like Al Gore and the like, spew deceptive data to the masses.
    You mean the data that is publically available from any major climate research institute around the globe? Al Gore is the chief of all those institutes? That is impressive! I don't see his name on any of the data that is available from for examples NASA though.

    this planet will be exactly the same 100 years from now. Hurricanes happen gc, along with all the other natural disasters
    Not according to the scientific data. Hurricanes and other natural disasters do indeed happen, no one is claiming that climate change is the sole cause of all natural disasters, they claim that climate change increase the rate and strength of phenomena like extreme weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by way 2 go View Post
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    Nope http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/...2008BAMS2370.1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selaphiel View Post
    You mean the data that is publically available from any major climate research institute around the globe? Al Gore is the chief of all those institutes? That is impressive! I don't see his name on any of the data that is available from for examples NASA though.



    Not according to the scientific data. Hurricanes and other natural disasters do indeed happen, no one is claiming that climate change is the sole cause of all natural disasters, they claim that climate change increase the rate and strength of phenomena like extreme weather.
    Do some research on climate change researchers. They are all publicly funded and they sell fear. The private sector would never fund it.
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    People only think there's a consensus on climate change because any disagreement has an impossible time getting peer reviewed studies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    People only think there's a consensus on climate change because any disagreement has an impossible time getting peer reviewed studies.
    Peer-reviewed climate papers by climate skeptics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selaphiel View Post
    You mean the data that is publically available from any major climate research institute around the globe? Al Gore is the chief of all those institutes? That is impressive! I don't see his name on any of the data that is available from for examples NASA though.



    Not according to the scientific data. Hurricanes and other natural disasters do indeed happen, no one is claiming that climate change is the sole cause of all natural disasters, they claim that climate change increase the rate and strength of phenomena like extreme weather.




    Hmmm, rate and strength. Seems they are quite a bit off on rate! ('first 'cane in 12 years...) but also notice the info about Irma: this is the first one Tampa has faced in almost 100 years...

    Meanwhile across the continent: Hole in the Wall glacier, a sidebar of Taku (N. America's largest) was not showing 100 years ago. It has developed and grown since. A cross section of HinW on the downstream side of the ridge it broke through is the same width and height as the core of downtown Seattle. Seems to be growth over the past 100 years! Of course, Lake Taku, which was the dammed Taku river upstream from where Taku used to reach, no longer exists, but that was 200 years ago. It did not happen during the internal combustion era. Which is why Obama was such a flop saying what he did, when quoting Hume about Glacier Bay (Hume attributed its reduction the same way--to modern industry). How could we let such a person be in charge of national security?
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    2 New Studies Undermine Climate Denial Arguments

    They're also reminders of how the peer-review process works, and why peer-reviewed research remains the key to sound climate policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe View Post
    In my opinion "Global Warming" is a GIGANTIC money making political SCAM that's been perpetrated on the masses by "Far-left-wing" Politicians, media, and Hollywood types. Al Gore is the CEO of this cult like following. As Christians, we know that, in the end, God, Himself will destroy the earth and recreate a new earth.
    Wrong on all counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Hmmm, rate and strength. Seems they are quite a bit off on rate! ('first 'cane in 12 years...) but also notice the info about Irma: this is the first one Tampa has faced in almost 100 years...

    Meanwhile across the continent: Hole in the Wall glacier, a sidebar of Taku (N. America's largest) was not showing 100 years ago. It has developed and grown since. A cross section of HinW on the downstream side of the ridge it broke through is the same width and height as the core of downtown Seattle. Seems to be growth over the past 100 years! Of course, Lake Taku, which was the dammed Taku river upstream from where Taku used to reach, no longer exists, but that was 200 years ago. It did not happen during the internal combustion era. Which is why Obama was such a flop saying what he did, when quoting Hume about Glacier Bay (Hume attributed its reduction the same way--to modern industry). How could we let such a person be in charge of national security?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Hmmm, rate and strength. Seems they are quite a bit off on rate! ('first 'cane in 12 years...) but also notice the info about Irma: this is the first one Tampa has faced in almost 100 years...

    Meanwhile across the continent: Hole in the Wall glacier, a sidebar of Taku (N. America's largest) was not showing 100 years ago. It has developed and grown since. A cross section of HinW on the downstream side of the ridge it broke through is the same width and height as the core of downtown Seattle. Seems to be growth over the past 100 years! Of course, Lake Taku, which was the dammed Taku river upstream from where Taku used to reach, no longer exists, but that was 200 years ago. It did not happen during the internal combustion era. Which is why Obama was such a flop saying what he did, when quoting Hume about Glacier Bay (Hume attributed its reduction the same way--to modern industry). How could we let such a person be in charge of national security?
    https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01195809/document

    Try this. Deals with a number of glaciers in the Andes, not one glacier that seems to continue to ring your bell.

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