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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Acts 13:32 does not state "And we bring you the good news that everything God promised to the fathers,"

    He said "what" instead. Its up to interplanetary to prove "what" implies "all".




    I don't have to prove it is everything. You can't prove that the resurrection is the land of Judea. I'm asking what is it about the resurrection that would have finality for Israel? That's the only way we will learn what is going on in NT theology and what it is shifting to.

    The Greek expression 'tauten' is best as 'that which was promised' or 'the thing promised;' so since the resurrection answers to that in the sentence, and you know everything, tell us the question's answer.
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    IP has no answers

    2 Timothy 4:2, 3, 4
    1 Corinthians 15:1-2 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV -


    Colossians 1:13-14 KJV - Colossians 1:15-16 KJV - Colossians 1:17-18 KJV -

    Colossians 1:19-20 KJV - Colossians 1:21-22 KJV - Colossians 1:23 KJV -

    Colossians 1:25-26 KJV 27, 28, 29 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Ephesians 1:12-13, 14 -



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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    IP has no answers

    2 Timothy 4:2, 3, 4




    I have posted it 1000x.
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    PJ, there was no club of D'ists when 2 tim 4 was written. Chafer invented that when he decided the bible was too conflicted and needed his answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    IP has no answers

    2 Timothy 4:2, 3, 4
    Just made up ideas, and commentary regurgitation.
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    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    That was in reference to editing, not substantial questions. Not that you pay any attention. Chafer built with 2x4s, not me. I use self-organizing statements in the text.
    You said your posting here was a hobby, not your editing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    The question is why can Paul say it: that the resurrection completes what God promised to the fathers, with finality? Do you doubt the finality? After that sermon?
    He did not say that. You made that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Acts 13:32 does not state "And we bring you the good news that everything God promised to the fathers,"

    He said "what" instead. Its up to interplanetary to prove "what" implies "all".
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    The same total and finally inclusive meaning to promised here in ch 13 is in ch 26, almost expressed the same way: 'It is because of my hope in what God has promised (...tes...epangelias genomenos...) our fathers... This is the promise our twelve tribes are hoping to see fulfilled as they serve God...' Their opposition to him is precisely because he is saying it was completed or received in the resurrection, which offers forgiveness to all and 'a place among God's chosen people' (hagiasmenos) v18 to the nations. That's why he wants everyone there to become as he is, except for the chains. To be a proclaimer like he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    The same total and finally inclusive meaning to promised here in ch 13 is in ch 26, almost expressed the same way: 'It is because of my hope in what God has promised (...tes...epangelias genomenos...) our fathers... This is the promise our twelve tribes are hoping to see fulfilled as they serve God...' Their opposition to him is precisely because he is saying it was completed or received in the resurrection, which offers forgiveness to all and 'a place among God's chosen people' (hagiasmenos) v18 to the nations. That's why he wants everyone there to become as he is, except for the chains. To be a proclaimer like he is.
    100% made up. Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    This is a hobby. I don't edit it as closely as my professional work, and spelling and punct is irrelevant to the actual problem that this OP is about, which you refuse to deal with, and undercut your entire position until you do.
    Justifying your laziness here. What happened to your "real writer and grammar scholar"?

    You insult our LORD Jesus Christ and just brush it off.
    Last edited by Right Divider; September 10th, 2017 at 04:28 PM.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

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    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Justifying your laziness here. What happen to your "real writer and grammar scholar"?

    You insult our LORD Jesus Christ and just brush it off.




    You don't know what you're talking about on either.

    Chafer invented D'ism because the Bible was a mess of conflicting messages. That's how it started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    You don't know what you're talking about on either.

    Chafer invented D'ism because the Bible was a mess of conflicting messages. That's how it started.
    You're SO lazy that you do not respect the LORD Jesus Christ enough to use proper grammar when writing about Him here.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    The list: http://theologyonline.com/entry.php?...quot-list-quot Great Bible software: http://www.theword.net/

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    Chafer didn't respect the Bible enough to find out where how it organized itself. How about you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    You don't know what you're talking about on either.

    Chafer invented D'ism because the Bible was a mess of conflicting messages. That's how it started.
    IP, you have lost your last remaining Preterist marble

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    D'ism was invented because Chafer thought the Bible was confused

    Enjoy your heritage D'ists. That's why it exists. The guy couldn't digest the apostles teachings. This is not opinion; it is his words, recently noted with background by Northwye.

    To bolster support, the 'enemy' of RT was concocted. This buried the actual RT issue which is at Gal 3:17. Very clever.
    Let's see if I have that right...

    You and yours assert that John Nelson Darby invented Dispensationalism.

    Now you assert "D'ism was invented because Chafer thought the Bible was confused..."

    Gotta admit, that is quite a feat...

    John Nelson Darby (18 November 1800 29 April 1882)

    Lewis Sperry Chafer (February 27, 1871 August 22, 1952)

    Chafer was what - only eleven years old when Darby went home to be with the Lord?

    Someone missed a great opportunity to put Chafer on the children's segment of the hit reality tv show "America's Got Talent."



    Nevertheless, Rom. 5:8.

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