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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    Read the book I recommended to you. It is available on Amazon.
    No thanks. The Holy Bible tells me that the promise in Acts 13 is singular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    No thanks. The Holy Bible tells me that the promise in Acts 13 is singular.
    The promise was fulfilled by the promised "Seed;" the "Savior," Jesus Christ, who is singular.

    All covenant, promises, and prophecies in the O.T. are concerning the singular fulfillment achieved by Jesus Christ.

    Solus Christus!
    "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

    " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
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    "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    The promise was fulfilled by the promised "Seed;" the "Savior," Jesus Christ, who is singular.

    All covenant, promises, and prophecies in the O.T. are concerning the singular fulfillment achieved by Jesus Christ.

    Solus Christus!
    So, again, you are a preterist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    So you are a preterist, too.
    No, STP, she holds to Reformed Theology.

    Preterism and it's variants are an offshoot of Reformed Theology,

    As such, they, including IP'S variant further, will have many similar beliefs, but they are not the same.

    Preterism and its variants would be more a kind of Hyper-Reformed.

    But nang is right in her assertion that one can learn from all schools of thought.

    Even from, and or despite errors.

    It really depends on how all encompassing one actually, as one looks out at the overall landscape, though holding to a particular view.

    Even the Apostle Paul ends up agreeing with the witness of secular sources on one thing or another, here and there in his writings.

    Nevertheless, Rom. 5:8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    But nang is right in her assertion that one can learn from all schools of thought.
    We should never take the word of one of her books OVER the Holy Bible...which she does.
    This is the point I was ultimately making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    So, again, you are a preterist.
    She is if she thinks all prophesies were fulfilled in history at the death burial and resurrection of Christ.

    For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    She is if she thinks all prophesies were fulfilled in history at the death burial and resurrection of Christ.
    Sounded like what she said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    Jesus said, " . . all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me." Luke 24:44

    And all that was so written in the O.T. concerning Jesus Christ, was the Gospel message actually witnessed in the N.T. Luke 24:46-48; Acts 10:36-43
    You've read that out of it's context.

    They had believed He had been the One Prophesied to redeem Israel from their enemies one day, see also, Luke 1.

    He shows them He is just That - their Prophesied Christ.

    His point being that their timing is off.

    First, His sufferings, then, His coming throne of His glory over that Nation, see Matthew 19 and 1 Peter 1.

    What happened?

    See Romans 11.

    As both those two, and the Lord in His response to them proved in Luke 24, there is no point in believing the Scriptures absent of their right understanding via the whole of any matter.

    Isaiah 8:20

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Sounded like what she said.
    It does, and then she backs off a little.
    As if she were trying to make it as close to that as possible without outright saying it.

    There are several prophesies that are still future.

    For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    It does, and then she backs off a little.
    As if she were trying to make it as close to that as possible without outright saying it.

    There are several prophesies that are still future.
    Absolutely, and the new heaven and new earth.
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    The 1st coming as the suffering servant is past.
    The 2nd coming as the Lion of the tribe of Judah is future.

    For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    The 1st coming as the suffering servant is past.
    The 2nd coming as the Lion of the tribe of Judah is future.
    Absolutely.

    (1st coming- Spring)
    Passover
    Unleavened Bread
    First Fruits
    Pentecost

    (2nd coming-Fall)
    Trumpets
    Day of Atonement
    Tabernacles
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Sounded like what she said.
    Nope. Reformed Theology does not hold that all prophecies have been fulfilled.

    Heck, even IP does not hold that.

    Thus, his Matt. 24B / 1 Peter 3.

    Try being a bit more objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Absolutely.

    (1st coming- Spring)
    Passover
    Unleavened Bread
    First Fruits
    Pentecost

    (2nd coming-Fall)
    Trumpets
    Day of Atonement
    Tabernacles
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    Nope. Reformed Theology does not hold that all prophecies have been fulfilled.

    Heck, even IP does not hold that.

    Thus, his Matt. 24B / 1 Peter 3.

    Try being a bit more objective.


    I know that. But what she said sounded like preterism.
    She'll say anything to oppose MAD wackos.
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