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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    ...equals unbelief in what GOD plainly said.
    Sad, ain't it, to have so many be against GOD's promises?

    For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Sad, ain't it, to have so many be against GOD's promises?
    Yes, it is sad.

    But they don't seem to mind at all.... which is even sadder.
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    Yes, it is sad.

    But they don't seem to mind at all.... which is even sadder.
    Yes, it is sadder.

    And the saddest is they are encouraging others to be against GOD's promises.

    For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Yes, it is sadder.

    And the saddest is they are encouraging others to be against GOD's promises.
    Yep.

    Luk 24:25* Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:*
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Sad, ain't it, to have so many be against GOD's promises?




    Except that its not.

    The place you go off the rails is the new covenant and as long as you worship STP you won't get this straigtened out. It is currently true and evangelistic and it is not about the land of Judea. THAT is exactly what makes it exciting. It is you people who are missing out, it is you to be pitied.

    STP is nothing if not rebellious about it being current, evangelistic, and not about the land. The NT passages with the EXCEPTION of Heb 8 are perfectly clear.

    Thus, Heb 8 is on my list of about 10 passages on which D'ism is just as much a cult as JW's saying that Jesus is a god in Jn 1. I'm sure you know the others--or not so sure because I detect a HUGE memory problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    Yep.

    Luk 24:25* Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:*





    What a ridiculous thing to quote! It is exactly that kind of teaching that would manifest in the apostles doctrine showing the new covenant was current and evangelistic and not about Judea (not confined to). He meant the suffering and resurrection of Christ as his enthronement. That what they taught was the 4 doctrines I outlined. That Acts 26 shows Paul limiting what he teaches from the prophets to: the suffering, raising and mission of Christ. And does not teach what you teach.

    So even here D'ism is parasitic. It finds the word ALL in a passage on the prophets, rips it from context, declares its complicated additions to be THE TRUTH and ridicules what the apostles actually taught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Except that its not.

    The place you go off the rails is the new covenant and as long as you worship STP you won't get this straigtened out. It is currently true and evangelistic and it is not about the land of Judea. THAT is exactly what makes it exciting. It is you people who are missing out, it is you to be pitied.

    STP is nothing if not rebellious about it being current, evangelistic, and not about the land. The NT passages with the EXCEPTION of Heb 8 are perfectly clear.

    Thus, Heb 8 is on my list of about 10 passages on which D'ism is just as much a cult as JW's saying that Jesus is a god in Jn 1. I'm sure you know the others--or not so sure because I detect a HUGE memory problem.


    What is it with your obsession with STP?

    They are not worshipping him.

    Obviously they think highly of the guy.

    And obviously they respect what they view as a guy who knows what's what when it comes to these issues.

    And they are pals and all the baggage that goes with that.

    And at that matters to them as a group.

    But that is how it is within any group.

    You claim they worship the guy.

    But it seems to me you are the one obssessed with him.

    You want to contribute - do what just about every other person on here who is also against Dispensationalism does - they at least start threads and frequently engage in threads on other topics as well.

    But hey, if your obsession is what you need to get you through your day, have at it.

    Philippians 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    Yep.

    Luk 24:25* Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:*




    Don't you see Steko? That's D'ism telling you what ALL means instead of the passage! What does the passage mean by it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Don't you see Steko? That's D'ism telling you what ALL means instead of the passage! What does the passage mean by it?
    I know the context, IP. The context is the resurrection as prophecied.

    However, the prophets speak of much more than the resurrection.

    Peter speaks of the same 'all' which I'm referring to in Acts 3:21.

    Act 3:21* Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.*


    ...which informs us that when Christ returns there will be more things fulfilled which were spoken by the prophets.

    By the way, you glommed on your own addition to the context when you said it meant Christ's 'enthronement', which the verse doesn't mention at all.
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Don't you see Steko? That's D'ism telling you what ALL means instead of the passage! What does the passage mean by it?
    That's your study method, IP?

    What a word means in a passage obviously connected to other passages just as obviously ignored by you?

    You incompetent fool - off you went to your books about 70AD in your failure to have REMAINED in THE BOOK, that you too might come to believe all that the prophets had said concerning Him.

    You are a fool, IP.

    Plain and simple.

    "Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken..."

    Nevertheless, Rom. 5:8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    At some point, STP, you have to really get into the mind of the writer, not just the words.


    My job is to believe what God has said, not become a mind reader.
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    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
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    You're too literal to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Just so we understand the overall working situation of the forum: the object is to arrive at the meaning of the Word. I long ago realized STP was in no position to be some kind of guide or leader, so his saying he was 'correcting' something is his vanity to work out. You have to have linguistic or background reasons in order for something to stand.
    No, if you can read 6th grade English, you can understand the promise (singular) in Acts 13.
    What you do to this text is a travesty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    It's not really a matter of the expression; there is nothing in any prophecy that says the resurrection of Christ was going to have the finality that Paul says it has here. That's because it provides everything through Christ or in Christ. The days of literalism are over. It is the forgiveness of sins--justification--and it is the mission of that afterwards.

    No other mention is made of the land here, and given the circumstances over in Judea, I'm not surprised.

    You people need to show why there is an outstanding need after this has taken place to have another go in Judea. It's irrelevant and it is not what the NT looks for when you read Gal, Col, Hebrews about the role of Judaism. That is what I have never understood about your view and you never talk about it. Like you are afraid something will fall apart. it will. So you just keep dictating it on scant evidence and on the notion that 'God would be a liar' inspite of bringing Israel back after exile.

    It's not a singular promise, it is a visionary one that changed the world and was meant to continue doing so.

    What or 'That which' God promised. 'Promise' is in a verb form. But in a history of Israel where the land and the kingdom have been covered--served their purpose--and in view of there not being a specific 'resurrection' promise, he is obviously saying it is all done through the resurrection.
    Made up, speculation, rationalization, humanism, unbelief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post

    Rom 11 was about what had taken place in Paul's time; the Redeemer who came to Zion and took away sins.
    Made up. The LORD has yet to roar out of Zion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    worship STP
    Silly accusation.
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