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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Why do you continue to support a political party that is responsible for Roe v Wade and hasn't done anything in 44 years to overturn it?
    Of the two main political parties the only one which is against abortion is the Republican Party. Here is the Republican's "Party Platform":

    Faithful to the "self-evident" truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to unborn children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Of the two main political parties the only one which is against abortion is the Republican Party. Here is the Republican's "Party Platform":
    Faithful to the "self-evident" truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to unborn children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
    Why do you continue to support a political party that is responsible for Roe v Wade and hasn't done anything in 44 years to overturn it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Of the two main political parties the only one which is against abortion is the Republican Party. Here is the Republican's "Party Platform":

    Faithful to the "self-evident" truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to unborn children.
    The Repubiicrat Party has had that platform since Roe v Wade was decided 44 years ago (that would be the same Roe v Wade decision that overwhelmingly was decided by Republican picked SCOTUS Justices).

    How many more millions of unborn babies need to be killed in the womb before you realize that the Republicrat Party is all talk and no action Gerald?
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    Don't you even know that when those same justices were chosen there was no litmus test in regard to abortion?

    How would any Republican President know back then how the justice which they picked would vote on the issue of abortion.

    Or perhaps you think that Eisenhower or Nixon picked justices based on the idea that they would vote in favor of abortion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Don't you even know that when those same justices were chosen there was no litmus test in regard to abortion?

    How would any Republican President know back then how the justice which they picked would vote on the issue of abortion.

    Or perhaps you think that Eisenhower or Nixon picked justices based on the idea that they would vote in favor of abortion?
    I'd have to do some extensive research to find out the background of the republican nominated judges that voted for Roe v Wade before agreeing with you that they were as pure as the driven snow Gerald:
    Were they ACLU'ers?
    Had they written articles on abortion prior to being confirmed? (the abortion movement didn't magically appear in 1973, it had been developing for at least 12 years prior to the SCOTUS decision).
    What topics were brought up during their confirmation hearings? Etc. etc.

    That being said: I have done extensive research on Donald Trump's SCOTUS pick Neil Gorsuch, and it doesn't look good for unborn babies:

    If you were a pro life President, would you nominate someone who attends a pro abortion/pro LGBTQ 'inclusive church'? In the event that you're not familiar with the term 'inclusive church' Gerald: that's where the congregation brings their politically correct sins to church (abortion, homosexuality) and everyone celebrates those sins with them.

    Gorsuch has a history of pro LGBTQ/abortion terminology and rulings as a judge prior to his SCOTUS confirmation

    Speaking of Gorsuch's SCOTUS confirmation hearing:

    What did Neil Gorsuch mean when he stated to a democrat Senator that "Roe v Wade is the law of the land"?

    "Senator, as the book explains, the Supreme Court of the United States has held in Roe v. Wade that a fetus is not a person for purposes of the Fourteenth Amendment, and the book explains that,” Gorsuch replied.

    “Do you accept that?” Durbin asked. “That’s the law of the land,” Gorsuch answered. “I accept the law of the land, senator, yes.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...earing/520425/

    Sounds to me like he meant that it's "settled law" Gerald.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    I'd have to do some extensive research to find out the background of the republican nominated judges that voted for Roe v Wade before agreeing with you that they were as pure as the driven snow Gerald:
    I would have thought that you already knew about these things since you made such harsh judgments against the Presidents who appointed them!

    Do you always behave in such a reckless manner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    I would have thought that you already knew about these things since you made such harsh judgments against the Presidents who appointed them!
    So you don't want to talk about Neil Gorsuch? (Wise decision Gerald).

    Maybe it's me, but I get the feeling that the republican appointed Supreme Court Justices who voted for Roe v Wade, in essence saying that unborn children don't have a right to life, just may have had some liberal ideology in their background.

    Do you always behave in such a reckless manner?
    Gerald, go back to your "My church is better than your church!" threads, you're out of your league when you attempt to talk politics with me.
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    I don't know a ton about politics but I know a lot about people and if you ask around, there are many people of color voting democrat despite their convictions about abortion. If the Republican Party sought out true criminal justice reform in addition to keeping a strong stance on abortion, you would probably see a shift in party loyalty.

    Removing a confederate monument is an excellent olive branch that makes one a credible voice in why we should remove Margaret's Sangers-because we values human life as created in the image of God. Addressing our gross mishandling of justice and the way it affects communities of color is a great way to become a credible voice in the fight against abortion. We are showing we value all life and that makes us credible.

    Most people of color I know personally are anti abortion but getting them to vote republican would be like telling someone who is dying of cancer to forgo their chemo treatment because this person they have never met is dying and needs it more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SStyles View Post
    I don't know a ton about politics but I know a lot about people and if you ask around, there are many people of color voting democrat despite their convictions about abortion. If the Republican Party sought out true criminal justice reform in addition to keeping a strong stance on abortion, you would probably see a shift in party loyalty.
    "Criminal justice reform" (liberal talk for allowing criminals to walk free). Maybe if the Republicrat Party actually did something to strengthen the family, blacks wouldn't disproportionately commit crimes.


    Removing a confederate monument is an excellent olive branch that makes one a credible voice in why we should remove Margaret's Sangers-because we values human life as created in the image of God. Addressing our gross mishandling of justice and the way it affects communities of color is a great way to become a credible voice in the fight against abortion. We are showing we value all life and that makes us credible.
    Please don't compare the statues in the South which stand for Southern heritage with a racist-Jew hating baby murderer.

    Most people of color I know personally are anti abortion but getting them to vote republican would be like telling someone who is dying of cancer to forgo their chemo treatment because this person they have never met is dying and needs it more.
    Many republicrats have tried to persuade blacks to vote republican by trying to convince them that pro communist/pro abortion/sexual deviant Martin Luther King Jr. was a conservative.

    The lies of the Republicrat Party never cease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    "Criminal justice reform" (liberal talk for allowing criminals to walk free). Maybe if the Republicrat Party actually did something to strengthen the family, blacks wouldn't disproportionately commit crimes.




    Please don't compare the statues in the South which stand for Southern heritage with a racist-Jew hating baby murderer.



    Many republicrats have tried to persuade blacks to vote republican by trying to convince them that pro communist/pro abortion/sexual deviant Martin Luther King Jr. was a conservative.

    The lies of the Republicrat Party never cease.
    I'll start with your first point, if you care to enlighten me. I may be a republicrat-not sure yet. How can I help strengthen the family for people of color?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SStyles View Post
    I'll start with your first point, if you care to enlighten me. I may be a republicrat-not sure yet. How can I help strengthen the family for people of color?


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    Republicans not only gave us Roe v Wade, but things like no fault divorce.

    http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publi...ion-of-divorce

    I'm not sure which political party was behind doing away with cohabitation laws, but since republicans were responsible for Roe v Wade, no fault divorce and homosexuality going mainstream (Reagan was against the Briggs Initiative), it wouldn't surprise me if they were behind doing away with cohabitation laws as well.
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    The second point is confusing because, being from the south I don't know the definition of "Southern Heritage." However, this chart depicts where (North and South), when (at the height of oppressive Jim Crow segregation) and by whom (racist Jew hating KKK) the memorials were placed. The comparison is actually very obvious when you look at the history of the memorials themselves rather than the feelings you may have about what they represent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SStyles View Post
    I don't know a ton about politics but I know a lot about people and if you ask around, there are many people of color voting democrat despite their convictions about abortion. If the Republican Party sought out true criminal justice reform in addition to keeping a strong stance on abortion, you would probably see a shift in party loyalty.

    Removing a confederate monument is an excellent olive branch that makes one a credible voice in why we should remove Margaret's Sangers-because we values human life as created in the image of God. Addressing our gross mishandling of justice and the way it affects communities of color is a great way to become a credible voice in the fight against abortion. We are showing we value all life and that makes us credible.

    Most people of color I know personally are anti abortion but getting them to vote republican would be like telling someone who is dying of cancer to forgo their chemo treatment because this person they have never met is dying and needs it more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Republicans not only gave us Roe v Wade, but things like no fault divorce.

    http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publi...ion-of-divorce

    I'm not sure which political party was behind doing away with cohabitation laws, but since republicans were responsible for Roe v Wade, no fault divorce and homosexuality going mainstream (Reagan was against the Briggs Initiative), it wouldn't surprise me if they were behind doing away with cohabitation laws as well.
    Total white population in US: 76.9%
    Total black population in US: 13.3%

    According to a Gallup pole, 4.6% of African Americans and 3.2% of white people identify as LGBTG-so no big difference there.

    According to the US Bureau of Justice statistics, White people make up 32% of the prison population and black people make up 37%. WOW-that's a huge difference based on total population percentage. So 1 in 17 white guys go to prison and 1 in 3 black guys. Now that will weaken a family for sure.

    Divorce rates have been on the decline since 1980 but cohabitation rates are in the rise. They are harder to pinpoint by race but by age they are on the rise in the divorced, 50+ group. The group that divorced is now living/shacking up. So are their kids (who could blame them?). The most traceable factor I could find between cohabitation and race was education level. People of all races with similar education levels had similar cohabitation rates. Most likely because we are all just people created equally and when given equal opportunity, produce equal results. No major difference by race here that I could find.

    SO- Why do you think black males are so much more likely to be arrested and imprisoned?




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    Quote Originally Posted by SStyles View Post
    The second point is confusing because, being from the south I don't know the definition of "Southern Heritage."...
    http://www.southernheritage411.com/
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