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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Paul was sent to Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. Why would he have different messages?

    "But the Lord said to him, 'Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel." (Acts 9:15)
    Paul preached ALL the counsel of God.

    Acts 20:27 (AKJV/PCE)
    (20:27) For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.

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    And Paul is buried in England.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

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    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    It doesn't realize that the land promise came and went and was only a prep for the mission of Christ, Acts 13.
    Made up, as usual.
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    You're too literal to get it.
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    The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    There is more than one aspect of "God's kingdom". The EARTHLY kingdom is what God was and will do with and through Israel.
    The body of Christ is part of God's heavenly kingdom were we are seated with Christ.
    Only those who are indwelt by the Spirit of Christ are his.

    "Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." (Romans 8:9-10)

    Why do you believe the Spirit of Christ is not in us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Paul preached ALL the counsel of God.
    So there it is, Paul preached all the counsel of God to Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel.

    Paul preached the OT faithfully as Christ gave him understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Yes, Paul explained that Christ's body has been converted into God's kingdom.

    "He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins." (Colossians 1:13-14)



    So are you agreeing that there was a separate mystery Christian thing created? I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Only those who are indwelt by the Spirit of Christ are his.

    "Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." (Romans 8:9-10)

    Why do you believe the Spirit of Christ is not in us?
    More of your rabbit trails.... no thanks.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    So are you agreeing that there was a separate mystery Christian thing created? I don't.
    Ephesians 3:6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together "with Israel", members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.



    Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

    Oh IP... you crack me up!



    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    So there it is, Paul preached all the counsel of God to Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel.

    Paul preached the OT faithfully as Christ gave him understanding.
    Paul taught SOME things that NOBODY else knew until God revealed them to and through Paul.

    The NEW things were not the ONLY things that Paul taught.

    Hence, Paul's statement about "ALL the counsel of God".
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    The list: http://theologyonline.com/entry.php?...quot-list-quot Great Bible software: http://www.theword.net/

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    There is no such earthly vs heavenly kingdoms developed in the NT. It would just divide things already united all over again. It is 2P2P from D'ism which is not worth considering.

    After 72 AD, when the end of the world did not take place, all of this was rather up in the air. In the counterreformation, Ribera introduced another Jewish theocracy but it was the domain of AC. The mission work mentioned recently by Danoh and Murray (an author) were not thinking of another Israel theocracy but only seeing another attempt to help Jews become believers, and thinking it was connected to the end of Christ's reign (Acts 2:30,31). But I don't even that is every solid--not after 72. Everything had been linked to the end of Judea and the temple, and only the worldwide judgement of God was mentioned.

    that's why my list of ordinary-language places in the NT that speak of the judgement of God coming have nothing about details about another episode of Judaism in Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    So are you agreeing that there was a separate mystery Christian thing created? I don't.
    So if IP doesn't think so, it can't be true?
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    The list: http://theologyonline.com/entry.php?...quot-list-quot Great Bible software: http://www.theword.net/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    There is no such earthly vs heavenly kingdoms developed in the NT. It would just divide things already united all over again. It is 2P2P from D'ism which is not worth considering.
    Poor little IP.

    Too bad that you don't believe the Bible.

    Eph 1:9-12 (AKJV/PCE)
    (1:9) Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: (1:10) That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; [even] in him: (1:11) In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: (1:12) That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

    And NO Paul was NOT speaking in the PAST TENSE about the fullness of times.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    So if IP doesn't think so, it can't be true?


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    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Poor little IP.

    Too bad that you don't believe the Bible.

    Eph 1:9-12 (AKJV/PCE)
    (1:9) Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: (1:10) That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; [even] in him: (1:11) In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: (1:12) That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

    And NO Paul was NOT speaking in the PAST TENSE about the fullness of times.




    Those are not kingdoms and he was speaking of things now fulfilled in Christ that would remain so going forward. The kingdom is in effect now, and we are ambassadors. (that's why THAT word was selected). It will go forward into the next age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    So if IP doesn't think so, it can't be true?




    That was to get Jamie to speak clearly. I still don't know.

    No the Gentiles faith was never a mystery. Amos 9 in Acts 15; it was known for long ages.

    The mystery was that it would all happen 'in the Gospel' as the grammar of Eph 3:5-6 says. It would not happen through the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Those are not kingdoms and he was speaking of things now fulfilled in Christ that would remain so going forward. The kingdom is in effect now, and we are ambassadors. (that's why THAT word was selected). It will go forward into the next age.
    Your rejection of God's earthly kingdom with the LORD Jesus Christ sitting on the throne of His father David is already duly noted.

    Your continues perversion of the scripture is tiresome and I'm putting you back on ignore.

    You are useless and stubbornly wrong.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
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    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

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    The list: http://theologyonline.com/entry.php?...quot-list-quot Great Bible software: http://www.theword.net/

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