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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    God supernaturally sent Peter to the Gentiles at the same time. In fact that is Peter's recollection of what happened in his account in ch 15.
    Why did God have to supernaturally send Peter?
    Did the LORD Jesus Christ not do a good job?
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

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    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They were practicing the old covenant, not the new! There is no such ritual in the new, and there is no future new covenant for israel where the old rituals are "done right."
    Hi and you believe that Israel was under the Law of Moses , when did Israel or the 12 apostles practice the New Covenant with a verse , especially in the light of 2 Cor 3:13-16 ??

    If there is a VAIL over their hearts and can not understand the Law of Moses , how will they understand the New Covenant ??

    Will you answer ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    The reason the covenant is new is that it was done by Christ already.
    The above says absolutely NADA, and can be deceitfully employed to address any doctrinal point.

    Deceptive fraud, poser.

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    In fact, anyone in christ
    The fraud is going to allegedly school us hillibillies in this "the Greek" jazz, even though he could not tell the difference between a "Hebrew National" and a gyros, and he uses small "c" in "Christ?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Why did God have to supernaturally send Peter?
    Did the LORD Jesus Christ not do a good job?
    The Bible believer knows the answer is Matthew 10:23 (KJV).
    IP will say something about denial, or another humanistic reason (vain imagination).
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    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
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    You're too literal to get it.
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    The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    The fraud is going to allegedly school us hillibillies in this "the Greek" jazz, even though he could not tell the difference between a "Hebrew National" and a gyros, and he uses small "c" in "Christ?"
    And yet he used the capital C for Chafer.

    What a loser!
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    And yet he used the capital C for Chafer.

    What a loser!
    It's just a hobby, he's slapping together 2x4s with reckless abandon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    It's just a hobby, he's slapping together 2x4s with reckless abandon.
    Anyone that sloppy when they are talking about our LORD Jesus Christ cannot be taken seriously.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Anyone that sloppy when they are talking about our LORD Jesus Christ cannot be taken seriously.
    I think all of this is just an academic exercise for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Anyone that sloppy when they are talking about our LORD Jesus Christ cannot be taken seriously.




    Nonsense, you fail to take on the question that explodes D'ism. I honor Christ in every way. I see no where in the NT that the GRAMMAR of casusal conversation is at the top of the list, and time is short. Get a life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Nonsense, you fail to take on the question that explodes D'ism. I honor Christ in every way. I see no where in the NT that the GRAMMAR of casusal conversation is at the top of the list, and time is short. Get a life.
    Why did you dismiss the sermon on the mount?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Nonsense, you fail to take on the question that explodes D'ism. I honor Christ in every way.
    You do not even capitalize HIS NAME!

    That is TOTAL disrespect no matter the venue!
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    God supernaturally sent Peter to the Gentiles at the same time. In fact that is Peter's recollection of what happened in his account in ch 15.

    Remember, the 12 were the guys who were dejected that christ didn't redeem Israel in Luke 24, and still asking about Israel's kingdom in Acts 1 where they were flatly rebuked for the nonsense. It's a really, really deep root, so deep that Chafer picked it up 19 centuries later and thought he could solve the bible with it and now has millions of baby Christians infected with 'knowledge' which is neither knowledge nor empowering them into the mission of Christ. But Chafer got worshiped for inventing it and that's what matters.

    The fact that the issue of Acts 15 came up shows it was never cured even in the early Christian Jewish church.
    You didn't even try to answer my simple question. I'll type it more slowly.

    Given the rip-roaring start (and that's a fact) of the "great commission" in Acts 2, why did God then bench the Twelve, as far as the Gentile world is concerned, and sent Paul to Gentiles instead?
    Not a single cluster of living fruit was, or ever will be, harvested from the tree of legality. Law can only produce “dead works,” from which we need to have conscience purged just as much as from “wicked works.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    You didn't even try to answer my simple question. I'll type it more slowly.

    Given the rip-roaring start (and that's a fact) of the "great commission" in Acts 2, why did God then bench the Twelve, as far as the Gentile world is concerned, and sent Paul to Gentiles instead?
    "Half time adjustments?"

    Wait....Remember, musty:


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    Threads like this would be a lot fewer if people, myself included, just admitted the obvious about IP and acted accordingly, Danoh notwithstanding.
    Not a single cluster of living fruit was, or ever will be, harvested from the tree of legality. Law can only produce “dead works,” from which we need to have conscience purged just as much as from “wicked works.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    "Half time adjustments?"
    The most common answer I've heard, from the few willing to give one, is that the Twelve were disobedient (sinning) in their hatred of Gentiles, so God took away the G.C. and committed it to Paul. That's straight up slander without a shred of Biblical evidence to support it.

    The second most common is the "division of labor" idiocy...had the G.C. gone as intended, the Twelve would have had a NATION of Spirit-filled Jews to go to the world, including Saul. God wouldn't have needed just one more guy.

    Let's see what idle speculations IP can scrape out of his commentaries.
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