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    The essential irrationality of Dispensationalism

    STP is looking forward to the day when the Levitical sacrificial system is practiced exactly as it is supposed to be, (in the unintended compliment of D'ism thread). that is the opposite of what Hebrews says. I therefore believe D'ism to be as irrational as the secular social scientist who says "male and female genders are just social constructs to be overthrown."

    You want me to believe that Hebrews is only for Jews. Then you want me to believe that the new covenant is only for Jews. then, even though no one can miss that the new covenant in Christ is about the replacement of Judaism's worship and sacrifice system, I am supposed to believe that Hebrews is not for me AND (above) that every thing in the law will be practiced exactly.

    D'ism is therefore fundamentally irrational and made up.

    We are supposed to learn from it when things are shadows of Christ and when the reality of Christ has come. It has, Heb 9 and 10. They actually have no other topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    STP is looking forward to the day when the Levitical sacrificial system is practiced exactly as it is supposed to be, (in the unintended compliment of D'ism thread). that is the opposite of what Hebrews says. I therefore believe D'ism to be as irrational as the secular social scientist who says "male and female genders are just social constructs to be overthrown."

    You want me to believe that Hebrews is only for Jews. Then you want me to believe that the new covenant is only for Jews. then, even though no one can miss that the new covenant in Christ is about the replacement of Judaism's worship and sacrifice system, I am supposed to believe that Hebrews is not for me AND (above) that every thing in the law will be practiced exactly.

    D'ism is therefore fundamentally irrational and made up.

    We are supposed to learn from it when things are shadows of Christ and when the reality of Christ has come. It has, Heb 9 and 10. They actually have no other topic.

    Hi and I believe that there will never be a SACRIFICIAL SYSTEM again as Jesus in Heb 9:15 paid for all the sacrifices and sins committed under the Old Covenant ALSO , because will never die for sins ever again !!

    Also because there is a New High Priest after the order of Melchisedec !!

    In the Millennial Kingdom there will be sacrifices as recorded in Ezek !!

    #1 The burnt offering Ezek 40 :39 43:24 43:7

    #2 , The sin offering Ezek 40:39

    #3, The trespass offering Ezk 46:20

    #4, The peace offering Ezek 43:27

    #5, The meal offering Ezek 44:29

    #6, The drink offering Ezek 45:17


    The Holy Spirit will shed light to his people Isa 11:9 !!

    The New Covenant CAN NOT be in operation today as Paul warned all in Gal 4:10 !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi and I believe that there will never be a SACRIFICIAL SYSTEM again as Jesus in Heb 9:15 paid for all the sacrifices and sins committed under the Old Covenant ALSO , because will never die for sins ever again !!

    Also because there is a New High Priest after the order of Melchisedec !!

    In the Millennial Kingdom there will be sacrifices as recorded in Ezek !!

    #1 The burnt offering Ezek 40 :39 43:24 43:7

    #2 , The sin offering Ezek 40:39

    #3, The trespass offering Ezk 46:20

    #4, The peace offering Ezek 43:27

    #5, The meal offering Ezek 44:29

    #6, The drink offering Ezek 45:17


    The Holy Spirit will shed light to his people Isa 11:9 !!

    The New Covenant CAN NOT be in operation today as Paul warned all in Gal 4:10 !!

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    So you are saying both things will happen, right.

    lol, Gal 4:10 is not a warning about the new covenant. It is in effect today and there are no days/ seasons/ sacrifices. Those people had put themselves back under the 1st covenant. You have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    So you are saying both things will happen, right.

    lol, Gal 4:10 is not a warning about the new covenant. It is in effect today and there are no days/ seasons/ sacrifices. Those people had put themselves back under the 1st covenant. You have no idea.

    Hi and there is much more than what I wrote !!

    Gal 4:10 means that the Galatians were already in the PRESENT TENSE / PARATERO were OBSERVING Days , and Months , and Times and Years which all Jews did in their Worship !!

    This means there OBSERVING these things during UNDER the Dispensation of the Grace of God was wrong as the Mosic Law was just to be FAZED OUT as 2 Cor 3:13-16 says !!

    Care to comment on 2 Cor 3:13-16 , come on DOOOOOOOOO IT !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi and there is much more than what I wrote !!

    Gal 4:10 means that the Galatians were already in the PRESENT TENSE / PARATERO were OBSERVING Days , and Months , and Times and Years which all Jews did in their Worship !!

    This means there OBSERVING these things during UNDER the Dispensation of the Grace of God was wrong as the Mosic Law was just to be FAZED OUT as 2 Cor 3:13-16 says !!

    Care to comment on 2 Cor 3:13-16 , come on DOOOOOOOOO IT !!

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    They were practicing the old covenant, not the new! There is no such ritual in the new, and there is no future new covenant for israel where the old rituals are "done right."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They were practicing the old covenant, not the new! There is no such ritual in the new, and there is no future new covenant for israel where the old rituals are "done right."

    Hi and no comment on 2 Cor 3:13-16 ??

    Do not blame you as anti -dispensationalist have no answers that make sense !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They were practicing the old covenant, not the new! There is no such ritual in the new, and there is no future new covenant for israel where the old rituals are "done right."
    Hi and you believe that Israel was under the Law of Moses , when did Israel or the 12 apostles practice the New Covenant with a verse , especially in the light of 2 Cor 3:13-16 ??

    If there is a VAIL over their hearts and can not understand the Law of Moses , how will they understand the New Covenant ??

    Will you answer ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    So you are saying both things will happen, right.

    lol, Gal 4:10 is not a warning about the new covenant. It is in effect today and there are no days/ seasons/ sacrifices. Those people had put themselves back under the 1st covenant. You have no idea.
    Hi and if the NEW COVENANT is in effect , than there are 2 ways to be saved !!

    Today by the MYSTERY !!

    And then Israel will be saved Matt 24:13 or Matt 10:22 and Israel has to ENDURE / HYOMENO and the verb SHALL BE SAVED / SOZO is in the Greek FUTURE TENSE under a different Gospel as verse 14 explains , this GOSPEL of the Kingdom !!

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    The question is, to what extent have the dispensationalists also put themselves under the Old Covenant.

    We have to notice that many of them demonstrate that they do not follow Christian morality very well.. And many of them show that they are addicted to a gaming form of the dialectic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northwye View Post
    The question is, to what extent have the dispensationalists also put themselves under the Old Covenant.

    We have to notice that many of them demonstrate that they do not follow Christian morality very well.. And many of them show that they are addicted to a gaming form of the dialectic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi and there is much more than what I wrote !!

    Gal 4:10 means that the Galatians were already in the PRESENT TENSE / PARATERO were OBSERVING Days , and Months , and Times and Years which all Jews did in their Worship !!

    This means there OBSERVING these things during UNDER the Dispensation of the Grace of God !!

    dan p
    I'd be surprised if IP disagrees with that.

    Rom. 5:8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    I'd be surprised if IP disagrees with that.

    Rom. 5:8
    Hi probably right and will never see if the Greek words YE OBSERVE is really in the PRESENT TENSE , O WELL !!

    If he believes this , he is just here as a DEVIL'S ADVOCATE !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    I'd be surprised if IP disagrees with that.

    Rom. 5:8
    Hi probably right and will never see if the Greek words YE OBSERVE is really in the PRESENT TENSE , O WELL !!

    If he believes this , he is just here as a DEVIL'S ADVOCATE !!

    He should also know that it is in the MIDDLE VOICE and in the INDICATIVE MOOD and that it is a FACT !!

    The MIDDLE VOICE means that the Jews ( the subject ) are participating in the action of Gal 4:10 !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    STP is looking forward to the day when the Levitical sacrificial system is practiced exactly as it is supposed to be, (in the unintended compliment of D'ism thread). that is the opposite of what Hebrews says. I therefore believe D'ism to be as irrational as the secular social scientist who says "male and female genders are just social constructs to be overthrown."

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    D'ism is therefore fundamentally irrational and made up.

    We are supposed to learn from it when things are shadows of Christ and when the reality of Christ has come. It has, Heb 9 and 10. They actually have no other topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    You want me to believe that Hebrews is only for Jews. Then you want me to believe that the new covenant is only for Jews. then, even though no one can miss that the new covenant in Christ is about the replacement of Judaism's worship and sacrifice system, I am supposed to believe that Hebrews is not for me AND (above) that every thing in the law will be practiced exactly.
    I would like for you to believe who God said the new covenant was for.
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