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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    "Half time adjustments?"
    What makes you think it might have been half time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    You didn't even try to answer my simple question. I'll type it more slowly.

    Given the rip-roaring start (and that's a fact) of the "great commission" in Acts 2, why did God then bench the Twelve, as far as the Gentile world is concerned, and sent Paul to Gentiles instead?
    Answer the question @Interplanner

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    What makes you think it might have been half time?
    Oh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Answer the question @Interplanner



    Did God or did they? It just happened. They were prob still thinking about the Israel kingdom. But even so, Peter reflected on what happened and said God sent him to the Gentiles, and James said that is what happened too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Did God or did they?
    You tell us.

    It just happened.
    Oh. It "just happened." Accidentally just happened? Magically just happened? Which commentary gave you that gem. Or is that now your stock answer when you can't answer a MAD's Bible questions, "It just happened."

    They were prob still thinking about the Israel kingdom.
    "Probably"? You mean you don't know and you have no commentary that tells you? Come on, this isn't a hard question. The G.C. was never fulfilled after it had started. Paul's ministry replaced it. Tell us why.

    But even so, Peter reflected on what happened and said God sent him to the Gentiles, and James said that is what happened too.
    Duh, Peter got sent to a Gentile, yes, we all know that. He'd already been sent, eventually, to Gentiles with the G.C. But THIS time, Peter wasn't happy about seeing Cornelius and was not sure why God sent him even after it happened.

    Now answer the question:

    Why did Christ send Paul where He'd already said He was sending the 12?
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    You should be thankful TOL doesn't ban you for life, as you're clearly allowed to stay here and start idiotic thread after thread, railing against something you don't even understand and can't answer from Scripture. For awhile I thought you were more reasonable than Tet was, but you're truly stupid because your mind is literally closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    It just happened. They were prob
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    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
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    You're too literal to get it.
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    STP, the Bible is nothing but nonliteral probablies, donchaknow. No reason to get all worked up over what no one can say is true or not. The Bible proves nothing.

    Except MADs, they're definitely wrong. The Bible proves it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    You tell us.



    Oh. It "just happened." Accidentally just happened? Magically just happened? Which commentary gave you that gem. Or is that now your stock answer when you can't answer a MAD's Bible questions, "It just happened."



    "Probably"? You mean you don't know and you have no commentary that tells you? Come on, this isn't a hard question. The G.C. was never fulfilled after it had started. Paul's ministry replaced it. Tell us why.



    Duh, Peter got sent to a Gentile, yes, we all know that. He'd already been sent, eventually, to Gentiles with the G.C. But THIS time, Peter wasn't happy about seeing Cornelius and was not sure why God sent him even after it happened.

    Now answer the question:

    Why did Christ send Paul where He'd already said He was sending the 12?





    You assumed God stopped them from their commission, I did not. You also assumed a timestamp. I did not.

    As for Peter not exactly liking the job of going to the Gentiles, have you ever read Gal 2? He didn't like it and Paul had to blast him about that. Paul didn't insist on him continuing to try going to the Gentiles, but he did tell him he had mistreated Gentiles and confronted him.

    You sound like you don't know NT history at all, and are very upset on finding out what it really says, and have set yourself up as some kind of authority to whom all must answer. It's silly.

    God sent others (Philip) as well as Paul to keep on the game plan; to bless all nations.

    Now back to the real question: why do you follow the contrived theology of a person who said the Bible was so confusing that it needed him to clear it up in @ 1900 AD? (Chafer).
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    STP, the Bible is nothing but nonliteral probablies, donchaknow. No reason to get all worked up over what no one can say is true or not. The Bible proves nothing.

    Except MADs, they're definitely wrong. The Bible proves it.




    Back to the real questions you keep avoiding:

    Why are you following the imaginary solutions of Chafer to the imagined confusion of the Bible?

    Why is a person who loves that God was in Christ and that the resurrection fulfilled the promise to Israel, was the enthronement of Messiah and was the declaration that he was Son of God with power--why is that person being persecuted? But if he were to believe that there was to be a future episode of Judaism all over again with "Christ" in a temple in Jerusalem, doing sacrifices, it would make sense, and I'd be "in" with the club?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    You assumed God stopped them from their commission, I did not. You also assumed a timestamp. I did not.

    As for Peter not exactly liking the job of going to the Gentiles, have you ever read Gal 2? He didn't like it and Paul had to blast him about that. Paul didn't insist on him continuing to try going to the Gentiles, but he did tell him he had mistreated Gentiles and confronted him...
    I'd almost posted to Musti not to bother with his "why Paul?" question to you; that you'd only look at it from within all that your overall view is based on; which in your case, is your overall distortion.

    Sure enough; you did just that.

    You're a fool, Interplanner; plain and simple.

    Nevertheless, Rom. 5:8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    You assumed God stopped them from their commission, I did not. You also assumed a timestamp. I did not.
    Matthew 10:23 (KJV)


    The LORD sending Peter to Cornelius was OUT OF ORDER. Something had changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post


    God sent others (Philip) as well as Paul to keep on the game plan; to bless all nations.

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    Why did Paul immediately "break the agreement" of Acts 15, by going to the Jews in Acts 17-20?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    God sent others (Philip) as well as Paul to keep on the game plan; to bless all nations.
    Philip never went to a gentile. Show us the scripture were you think that he did.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    You assumed God stopped them from their commission, I did not.
    Fine. Then show us in the Bible that the Twelve continued the G.C. as Christ defined it:

    Go ye therefore, and teach ALL nations, baptizing THEM in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, teaching THEM to observe ALL things WHATSOEVER I have commanded you...
    Show where the ones Christ gave that command to -- the Twelve -- ever got close to completing it. If you can't, MAD wins.
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