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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Raise and exalted are enthronement language. Col 2 says he led a victory procession after the cross on the way to his seat, v15.
    The LORD Jesus Christ is NOT sitting on the throne of His father David.

    Luke 1:31-33 (AKJV/PCE)
    (1:31) And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. (1:32) He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: (1:33) And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

    Isa 9:7 (AKJV/PCE)
    (9:7) Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

    He WILL!
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

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    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    The LORD Jesus Christ is NOT sitting on the throne of His father David.

    Luke 1:31-33 (AKJV/PCE)
    (1:31) And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. (1:32) He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: (1:33) And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

    Isa 9:7 (AKJV/PCE)
    (9:7) Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

    He WILL!




    He is enthroned now and it is our job to proclaim to all creation. Acts 2, Eph 1, Col 1. That's what Luke's passages were about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    He is enthroned now and it is our job to proclaim to all creation. Acts 2, Eph 1, Col 1. That's what Luke's passages were about.
    No, He is not and no amount of you saying so will make it so.

    David's throne is in Jerusalem and the LORD Jesus Christ will sit upon it.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    The list: http://theologyonline.com/entry.php?...quot-list-quot Great Bible software: http://www.theword.net/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    He is enthroned now and it is our job to proclaim to all creation.
    Mankind was given six days to work and do his own thing.

    We are not in the seventh day of rest.

    If Jesus was sitting on David's throne in Zion why does Paul reference Satan as the god of this age?

    "But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded" (2 Corinthians 4:3-4)

    You must be thinking about the world to come. But it's not here yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    He is enthroned now and it is our job to proclaim to all creation. Acts 2, Eph 1, Col 1. That's what Luke's passages were about.
    Made up.

    Rev 11:15 (KJV)
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    Jamie wrote:
    If Jesus was sitting on David's throne in Zion why does Paul reference Satan as the god of this age?




    Jn 12:30:
    Now is the time for judgement on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out. But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.

    I believe he was saying that the proclamation of his Gospel as the act of judgement of God that justifies sinners at the same time 'drives out Satan.' God is just and justifier, Rom 3. But this has to be proclaimed to the world to have any effect. That is why other messages are powerless, and pose no risk to the person spreading them. The world likes to hear about 'improving your life' etc.

    I don't know why it would make any difference to sit on a throne in Jerusalem; what matters is that he is proclaimed as Lord of the universe, resurrected because of what he accomplished, and enthroned in that resurrection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    I believe he was saying that the proclamation of his Gospel as the act of judgement of God that justifies sinners at the same time 'drives out Satan.'
    Made up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    I don't know why it would make any difference to sit on a throne in Jerusalem;
    He is the second Adam.
    What job did the LORD give to Adam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    He is enthroned now and it is our job to proclaim to all creation. Acts 2, Eph 1, Col 1. That's what Luke's passages were about.
    The Lord Jesus has been exalted to the right hand of GOD in the Father's throne.

    He will sit on His glorious throne, the throne promised to Him, the throne of David at His second coming, as He plainly says:

    Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory


    As Peter says in Acts 2, He was raised 'to sit' on that throne, the throne of David....Zion/Jerusalem, just as the prophets declare.
    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
    Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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    I believe he was saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    The Lord Jesus has been exalted to the right hand of GOD in the Father's throne.

    He will sit on His glorious throne, the throne promised to Him, the throne of David at His second coming, as He plainly says:

    Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory


    As Peter says in Acts 2, He was raised 'to sit' on that throne, the throne of David....Zion/Jerusalem, just as the prophets declare.




    Yes, he is already seated on it, and Eph 1 is the solid parallel to that. There is nothing futurist about it. Acts 2's message ends with the trimphant '...made Lord and Christ.' There's nothing else to add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Yes, he is already seated on it, and Eph 1 is the solid parallel to that. There is nothing futurist about it. Acts 2's message ends with the trimphant '...made Lord and Christ.' There's nothing else to add.
    Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory


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    As Rom 1:4 says, Christ was declared with power by the resurrection to be the Son of God. So the resurrection itself has yet another feature in addition to the others in the "core" list.

    1:2 says this gospel was promised and known beforehand to the prophets in the Scriptures. This is further indication that it was IT post-exile Judaism that did not know this, even though it was known to the prophets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    As Rom 1:4 says, Christ was declared with power by the resurrection to be the Son of God. So the resurrection itself has yet another feature in addition to the others in the "core" list.

    1:2 says this gospel was promised and known beforehand to the prophets in the Scriptures. This is further indication that it was IT post-exile Judaism that did not know this, even though it was known to the prophets.
    God can promise something in the prophets, and keep it hidden until he is ready to reveal it.
    Put down your commentaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    God can promise something in the prophets, and keep it hidden until he is ready to reveal it.
    Put down your commentaries.
    NONE of THE Mystery preached by Paul was hidden in the Prophets - put down YOUR "commentaries."

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