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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    I John 1:7-9
    How do you ever get that scripture disproves what I said?
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Hey man....

    Is anybody else catchin' les beaux commentating Monday Night Football?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    Bildad the Shuhite
    I kinda thought Elihu had the shortest role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    The earthly ministry of Jesus Christ was under the law, even as Jesus Christ was busy fulfilling it during his earthly ministry.

    We are in grace, not under the law Galatians 2:21

    Shouldn't the Gospels be classified in the Old Testament rather than the New?

    Jesus Christ was the end of the law for righteousness.

    We receive righteousness by grace, not by the doing of the law.

    The Gospels is associated with the law of Moses.

    Jesus Christ's fulfilling of the law allowed for a new administration to become available, something far different than the law of Moses. So many Judeans objected to grace, they wished to remain under the law, even Judeans who got born again.

    Why not be consistent and refer to the gospels as Old Testament?
    The problem occurs when you use the term gospel instead of evangelism and promise in place of pre-evangelism.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    The problem occurs when you use the term gospel instead of evangelism and promise in place of pre-evangelism.
    How so?
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

    Pro scripture = Protestant

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    I do have a life.
    I know.

    What are you doing to receive the abundance of life Jesus Christ refers to in John 10:10?

    How do you go about receiving that promise in your life?
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

    Pro scripture = Protestant

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    How do you ever get that scripture disproves what I said?
    How do you ever get I was trying to disprove what you said.

    I really don't like to argue, but I do like to present scripture uninterpreted.

    In this case I am glad that I agreed with you and could provide supportive scripture.

    This is much simpler than trying to or thinking how I should unravel someone's error.
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

    Pro scripture = Protestant

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    How so?
    Because you don't understand what was conveyed by the word evangelism. The substance is wrung out by substituting evangel with gospel. All other european translations that were translated from the original languages have gone with the transliteration.

    A few examples:

    Afrikans = Die begin van die evangelie van Jesus Christus, die Seun van God.

    Croatian= Početak Evanđelja Isusa Krista Sina Božjega.

    Czech= Počátek evangelium Ježíše Krista, Syna Božího

    Danish= Jesu Kristi, Guds Sřns, Evangeliums Begyndelse er sĺledes

    Dutch= Het begin des Evangelies van JEZUS CHRISTUS, den Zoon van God

    French= Commencement de l'Évangile de Jésus Christ, Fils de Dieu.

    German= Dies ist der Anfang des Evangeliums von Jesus Christus.

    There could not have been an equivalent word in any other language to translate.

    Realistically, if gospel meant the same as evangelism the we would have a term gospelist's, but we don't.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    I know.

    What are you doing to receive the abundance of life Jesus Christ refers to in John 10:10?

    How do you go about receiving that promise in your life?
    I have no idea what you are trying to say.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    How do you ever get I was trying to disprove what you said.

    I really don't like to argue, but I do like to present scripture uninterpreted.

    In this case I am glad that I agreed with you and could provide supportive scripture.

    This is much simpler than trying to or thinking how I should unravel someone's error.
    Did you lose focus on what we were discussing?
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    I have no idea what you are trying to say.
    Jesus Christ stated that he came that we might have life and have it more abundantly.

    What does a person have to do to receive that abundant life?
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

    Pro scripture = Protestant

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    Jesus Christ stated that he came that we might have life and have it more abundantly.

    What does a person have to do to receive that abundant life?
    You have to do what the Way says to get in him.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    It's really quite embarrassing for you that you don't understand what it means to be a mediator, especially one between man and God. But to carry on this way is like taking out a sign on 5th Avenue that reads, "Oatmeal's brain is officially MUSH".

    Job 9:32-33

    For He is not a man, as I am,
    That I may answer Him,
    And that we should go to court together.
    Nor is there any mediator between us,
    Who may lay his hand on us both.

    Then, to add to your embarrassment, Timothy surrounds your verse with this:

    3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

    6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

    Is there a red haze over your eyes, too, Oats, that you can't read what is clearly written?
    Job 9:32-33

    For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.

    33 Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.

    Who is not a man as I am? God is not a man. God is one of the parties.

    Who is the other party? Job is a man, he is the other party.

    Who is the daysman, the mediator in these verses?

    There is no daysman, no mediator in this passage, in the time of those events.

    Why not?

    Because Jesus Christ did not exist at that time, he was in God's plan in His mind, but no woman yet believed as Mary would hundreds of years later.

    There was no mediator until God gave that job to His son, the man Christ Jesus.

    Did God make the right choice?

    Yes, God made the right choice



    As for I Timothy 2:3-6
    For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

    4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

    5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

    Could you do a better job of following who specifically is being referred to in specific phrases?

    Yes, you could.

    Did you know that God delegates power and authority to those He delegates responsibility to? Yes, I showed you that God does that by showing you Nehemiah 9:27

    Of course God is our savior.

    And so is Jesus Christ because God told him to do that. After all, Jesus Christ always did his Father's will, Jesus Christ did not do his own will, but always did the Father's will.

    His God and his Father and our God and our Father wanted Jesus Christ to do the works that would bring to pass our redemption and salvation, so what did Jesus do?

    a. his own thing

    b. the will of his God and Father.

    Thus by carrying out his Father's will, Jesus Christ became the agent of our salvation and redemption, God being the author, the source of our salvation and redemption.

    Why is the OT law called the law of Moses?

    a. because Moses authored it

    b. because God gave it to Moses to give to the people

    Why is Jesus called our savior?

    a. Because he originated it by doing his own will

    b. because he lovingly and humbly did the Father's will to do the legwork to bring redemption and salvation to us.
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

    Pro scripture = Protestant

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    glorydaz

    I see that my reply was too much for you.

    You didn't bother with context or reason.

    But with personal attacks.

    Yes, you at a loss to answer my post
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

    Pro scripture = Protestant

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    Job 9:32-33

    There was no mediator until God gave that job to His son, the man Christ Jesus.

    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    glorydaz

    I see that my reply was too much for you.

    You didn't bother with context or reason.

    But with personal attacks.

    Yes, you at a loss to answer my post
    Yes, I am at a loss as to how to answer your post.

    So, is it possible for you to have a son who is a donkey?

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