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    Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson can coexist. Id have Magic bring it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Old school sitcoms:

    Hal Linden, Bob Newhart, and Ed Asner
    No Carroll O'Connor?
    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes."
    When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics."
    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
    -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
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    No Carroll O'Connor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson can coexist. Id have Magic bring it up.
    Okay, but my guys will beat yours then because of the match up problem that gives you with my bigs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    Worse, no Lucy.
    Carroll was grouchy, but endearing. Lucy was just ... annoying.
    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes."
    When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics."
    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
    -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    Carroll was grouchy, but endearing. Lucy was just ... annoying.
    Ricky was annoying, which was his job as the straight man. Lucy was brilliantly funny. Carroll was a great actor (loved him in the Eastwood WWII flick) but I always found his writer/director a little too heavy handed on Family.

    Hey, how about Redd Foxx?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    Ricky was annoying, which was his job as the straight man. Lucy was brilliantly funny. Carroll was a great actor (loved him in the Eastwood WWII flick) but I always found his writer/director a little too heavy handed on Family.

    Hey, how about Redd Foxx?
    Redd Foxx ... amused me. Insofar as women, I preferred Jean Stapleton (dingbat), Mary Tyler-Moore, Betty White and Bea Arthur.
    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes."
    When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics."
    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
    -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
    - ABRAHAM LINCOLN, letter to Joshua F. Speed, August 22, 1855





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    Classical Music Mount Rushmore
    Haydn, Shostakovich, Chopin, Beethoven
    Honorable: Prokofiev, Dvorak.

    Modern Music Mount Rushmore
    Bob Dylan, Peter Gabriel, Jack White, John Lennon
    Honorable: Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, Paul & George, Fish (Marillion)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    No Carroll O'Connor?
    I just happened on this yesterday. Interesting without the Mike and Gloria we all know. Archie and Edith characters were mature day zero in this pilot.



    Carroll was great in Kelly's Heros as Town mention. Don Rickles and Donald Sutherland. Fun movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Songs - I have tons of favorites, but tonight it's these four

    Zebra - Tell Me What You Want
    Aphrodite's Child - The Four Horseman
    Simon & Garfunkel - The Boxer
    Don McLean - American Pie

    Listen to Aphrodite's Child, I think it was recorded in 69, amazing sound
    Good list. Tough to pick top four.
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    Music is too subjective. Who do you put with Led Zepplin? Mutt Lange's best which is AC/DC and Def Leppard? Michael Jackson? Can't do Jackson on principal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exminister View Post
    Classical Music Mount Rushmore
    Haydn, Shostakovich, Chopin, Beethoven
    Honorable: Prokofiev, Dvorak.
    Interesting.

    Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, have to be there, to my mind, though I mostly don't care for Bach until we get into his works for violin. Just a personal preference. After these three it's so open who knows? I love Dvorak and I'd probably add him to the fourth spot, though I recognize there are greater composers on the whole. His work in America was so transcendently rooted in that experience that it still makes me shake my head to hear how thoroughly he "got" us.

    Modern Music Mount Rushmore
    Bob Dylan, Peter Gabriel, Jack White, John Lennon
    Honorable: Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, Paul & George, Fish (Marillion)
    Rusmore of contemporary music, individually?

    For me it's Paul Simon, Stevie Wonder, Bob Dylan...Lennon without Paul doesn't make the list and vice versa, but they have to be there, so they each get a half face.

    Few people have had as long a run of great work as Simon. Fewer still have had the influence of Wonder. Dylan was just sublime and still is...L&M were game changers on a whole new level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    Interesting.

    Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, have to be there, to my mind, though I mostly don't care for Bach until we get into his works for violin. Just a personal preference. After these three it's so open who knows? I love Dvorak and I'd probably add him to the fourth spot, though I recognize there are greater composers on the whole. His work in America was so transcendently rooted in that experience that it still makes me shake my head to hear how thoroughly he "got" us.
    Mozart for me was spotty. Bach I could take or leave. Beethoven is wonderful. He and Chopin I was hooked on at a very early age.

    I love modern Russia composers. So much passion and nuance. It is hard to believe they could express those emotions in music. They expressed the Russian people's suffering under Stalin without getting carted off. Such must tension.

    Exhibit A - Could even tell how many times I have listened to this one symphony. I never get tired of it. Gergiev is the best conductor for Russia music.


    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic
    Rusmore of contemporary music, individually?
    I originally started to put bands in the list and I have seen pics of Mount Rushmore and realized it would be way too crowded so went to the band member I liked the most.

    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic
    For me it's Paul Simon, Stevie Wonder, Bob Dylan...Lennon without Paul doesn't make the list and vice versa, but they have to be there, so they each get a half face.

    Few people have had as long a run of great work as Simon. Fewer still have had the influence of Wonder. Dylan was just sublime and still is...L&M were game changers on a whole new level.
    John Lennon's work after The Beatles while not as prolific had the most staying power. I could listen over and over. Paul's work in too many cases was "silly little love songs". I enjoyed them but tired of them faster. So John won out. Paul Simon was brilliant but I felt he was a copier of styles and I could not un-see that. Stevie didn't float my boat.

    Bob Dylan's lyrics are incredible. Even he said in a 60 minute interview he didn't know how he wrote some songs like "It's Alright, Ma". He had so many great songs in that early period. Perhaps you could venture a suggestion, but no one in the rock era could write lyrics like that. He was out there and untouchable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exminister View Post
    Mozart for me was spotty. Bach I could take or leave. Beethoven is wonderful. He and Chopin I was hooked on at a very early age.

    I love modern Russia composers. So much passion and nuance. It is hard to believe they could express those emotions in music. They expressed the Russian people's suffering under Stalin without getting carted off. Such must tension.
    I've always been inordinately fond of Russian writers and composers.

    John Lennon's work after The Beatles while not as prolific had the most staying power. I could listen over and over. Paul's work in too many cases was "silly little love songs". I enjoyed them but tired of them faster. So John won out. Paul Simon was brilliant but I felt he was a copier of styles and I could not un-see that. Stevie didn't float my boat.
    I suppose it depends on the standard we're using. Simon started out within the folk world, but he grew to include all sorts of influences, writing great songs well beyond those early limits and influencing other musicians to do the same. I think every artist is derivative, so that doesn't bother me and he incorporated other influences instead of copying them. We disagree on L&M. I think John was the more serious lyricist, but Paul had the better melodic ear. They were never as great apart. I think it was the perfect partnership. If you don't love Stevie I'm just genuinely sorry to hear it. He had social conscience combined with a remarkable ear for melody, harmonies and integration of styles. He's probably the most copied and echoing in modern music among our choices.

    Bob Dylan's lyrics are incredible. Even he said in a 60 minute interview he didn't know how he wrote some songs like "It's Alright, Ma". He had so many great songs in that early period. Perhaps you could venture a suggestion, but no one in the rock era could write lyrics like that. He was out there and untouchable.
    Not going to get an argument from me on that one. I think he's equaled in particular compositions by a number of artists, but not in sum by any. Simon at his best could do it, for one. The Boxer is magnificent.
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