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    A day is as a thousand years with the Lord. When the thousand is not qualified with a number, it is an unknown length of time.
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    Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    No length of time in Gen 1:1 is given. Could be billions of years old.

    Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
    First God created, then it was made without form and void. Many speculate that God had created the heavens billions of years ago and then destroyed it because of rebellion in heaven. It doesn't say for sure, but it could explain the age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    If God created the earth and the universe with "the appearance of age", then what is the "apparent age" of the earth and the universe?
    Analogically, if science can determine that a 25-year-old man is 25 years old, and science determines that the universe is 13.7 billion years old and that the earth is 4.5 billions years old, then these are the apparent age of the earth and the universe.

    Exodus says it took God six days to make everything though, and it only took Him one day to make Adam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    According to the Bible, what is listed as the time duration for a day. This is on the first page if you are not sure.
    I see what you are saying, let me give it some thought.

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    The video was horribly uninformed. The dynamo theory has more evidence against it than for it, the zircon crystal dates include a great deal of inconsistency and thus can only be speculative, and the CRI graph is measuring the ability of the electromagnetic field to protect the earth (please note, that if the strength of the field ever did go down enough to allow onto earth all the sun throws at it, it would be an extinction event at the time frames given by those that believe in common descent).

    In short, Mr. Reed is just plain wrong and there is still no answer for how the magnetic field was made or is maintained on the earth, much less all the other planets that have a magnetic field as well.

    But then again, you and Mr. Reed believe in common descent as a religion despite the science and thus you'll believe any story that makes you feel better about your belief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    The bible speaks of the creation days as epochs of time, not literal days.
    Is that why the seventh day is an epoch of time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Is that why the seventh day is an epoch of time?
    There is a place in scriptures that says the seventh thousandth year is the seventh day. (Hebrew time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    According to the Bible, what is listed as the time duration for a day. This is on the first page if you are not sure.
    I looked at the original text and it did not say: (The following or next) evening and morning was a day. Nor is the word "that" in the scriptures, being (that day.) I see no reason to retract what I said, day being a epoch of time; even though the words "evening" and "morning" is used.

    Thanks anyway for pointing that out to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    According to the Bible, what is listed as the time duration for a day. This is on the first page if you are not sure.
    I am trying to find out if those words could be plural: "Evening and Morning"

    Perhaps you could find out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    There is a place in scriptures that says the seventh thousandth year is the seventh day. (Hebrew time)
    There is a place in scripture that says we may work six days but the seventh day is a day of rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Jennings View Post
    Do explain
    If people were on this planet for millions of years the bones would be piled up a 100 feet high on every square inch of every continent! Evolution is a lie of the devil who hates humans with such a passion that he will create a religion that is taught in every school and in every country. Evolution is a religion not science. The professors and teachers of it are really priests of the devil who's job is to deceive because they themselves are deceived. You have to have blind faith to believe that one animal can turn into another animal which has never been witnessed one single time ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    I looked at the original text and it did not say: (The following or next) evening and morning was a day. Nor is the word "that" in the scriptures, being (that day.) I see no reason to retract what I said, day being a epoch of time; even though the words "evening" and "morning" is used.

    Thanks anyway for pointing that out to me.
    Let's say you read Genesis 1 and you think, after reading it, perhaps for the first time, "Is one day in Genesis 1, one day? Or is it some other unit of time?" and you think, "Boy, it sure would be nice, me being Protestant, if the Bible itself, infallibly referred to the creation account, and sheds some light on my question," and you know what? Exodus.

    There's no indication in Exodus that Genesis 1 days are anything other than regular day-days. Not millennium-days or epoch-days or whatever else; Exodus just says days. Moses didn't get into any of this stuff, there isn't even any explanation afterwards or beforehand---just "six days."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    If people were on this planet for millions of years the bones would be piled up a 100 feet high on every square inch of every continent! Evolution is a lie of the devil who hates humans with such a passion that he will create a religion that is taught in every school and in every country. Evolution is a religion not science. The professors and teachers of it are really priests of the devil who's job is to deceive because they themselves are deceived. You have to have blind faith to believe that one animal can turn into another animal which has never been witnessed one single time ever.
    My thought is that if people have been here for that long we'd be buried in books. People have been around for thousands of centuries, and we only figured out how to write things down in the past handful of millennia? That's doesn't pass my sniff test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    There is a place in scriptures that says the seventh thousandth year is the seventh day. (Hebrew time)
    That's interesting. What scripture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    Let's say you read Genesis 1 and you think, after reading it, perhaps for the first time, "Is one day in Genesis 1, one day? Or is it some other unit of time?" and you think, "Boy, it sure would be nice, me being Protestant, if the Bible itself, infallibly referred to the creation account, and sheds some light on my question," and you know what? Exodus.

    There's no indication in Exodus that Genesis 1 days are anything other than regular day-days. Not millennium-days or epoch-days or whatever else; Exodus just says days. Moses didn't get into any of this stuff, there isn't even any explanation afterwards or beforehand---just "six days."



    No explanation, but there is a 'crack' that could allow other time. But it will still not be enjoyed by the uniformitarian because it means that other celestial things (battles?) were going on. If you want details, let me know. It's about the Hebrews expressions in v2 and about how Moses organized sections as he wrote.
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