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    If God created...

    If God created the earth and the universe with "the appearance of age", then what is the "apparent age" of the earth and the universe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    If God created the earth and the universe with "the appearance of age", then what is the "apparent age" of the earth and the universe?
    "God does not make brand spankin' new things that look old!"

    http://www.playjunkie.com/quizzes/1546?page=-1

    Sorry, don't mean any derailment whatsoever but couldn't help it!
    (Besides, it seems to lend credence to the OP suggestion in some strange way).

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    If God created the earth and the universe with "the appearance of age", then what is the "apparent age" of the earth and the universe?
    The age of the Universe is almost 14 billion years old, measured by the speed of light. The earth is much younger. The bible speaks of the creation days as epochs of time, not literal days.

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    The apparent age is whatever it needs to be so as to keep scientists in the dark and in derision.
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    Or is there rather the appearance of not so much age because...there is not so much? The fuzzy S shape of galaxies should actually be concentric circles with varying degrees of brightness if they are 14B.


    The normal meaning of the days in Gen 1 is the same as ours. There is only one other possible angle in the language that could allow other time, in the expressions of v2.

    But before we get to this, from 'all' that we know about heaven in the Revelation, etc., does God need physical things to exist?
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    6000 years plus or minus some change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    6000 years plus or minus some change.


    I'm inclined to agree except I hold on to some 10-11K data for the following reasons:
    1, even conservative Dr. F. Schaeffer allowed for about 10K because of certain expressions about 'the generations of...' in Hebrew. There can be skips. He documents it from Kings and Chronicles.
    2, Niagara, Lake Missoula and Lake Morse are all ice-dam collapses that are frequently dated to be about 9K and with about 1700 in Genesis from creation to the flood/cataclysm (and 1730 in the Mayan calendar for the same thing), we are roughly at 11K. The polar ice cores are also 'dusty' at about 9K, which makes sense due to the cataclysm, and which also means there are years where many layers could be counted (the assumption of 1 per year is not founded).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CherubRam View Post
    The bible speaks of the creation days as epochs of time, not literal days.[/SIZE][/B]
    According to the Bible, what is listed as the time duration for a day. This is on the first page if you are not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    6000 years plus or minus some change.
    Why not 7700 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    Why not 7700 years?
    It was roughly 2000 years from creation to Abraham, 2000 years from him to Christ and 2000 years since.

    Millions of years could never happen for so many reasons including population, magnetic field and natural resources.

    In the last 200 years the population has gone from 1 billion to 7 billion plus people which means that Jesus will be coming in the next 10 to 20 years because that kind of growth rate is unsustainable. Or at the very least global war over resources will break out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    Why not 7700 years?



    Do you mean 6000 since Noah's cataclysm and about 1700 before that? Interesting (because of 1700 from creation to cataclysm in Genesis and Mayan records), but not satisfactory about Niagara, Missoula, Morse and ice cores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    It was roughly 2000 years from creation to Abraham, 2000 years from him to Christ and 2000 years since.

    Millions of years could never happen for so many reasons including population, magnetic field and natural resources.

    In the last 200 years the population has gone from 1 billion to 7 billion plus people which means that Jesus will be coming in the next 10 to 20 years because that kind of growth rate is unsustainable. Or at the very least global war over resources will break out.



    Good points in the middle paragraph; spell it out in more detail. There are also the things that would not be/look as they are if in the millions (the S shaped galaxies, the salinity of earth's oceans, the depletion of helium, etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    Millions of years could never happen for so many reasons including population, magnetic field and natural resources.
    Do explain

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    Quote Originally Posted by daqq View Post
    "God does not make brand spankin' new things that look old!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoisses View Post
    Millions of years could never happen for so many reasons including population, magnetic field and natural resources.
    Regarding population and the magnetic field:

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    And why would natural resources be a problem for "millions of years"?
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