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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross Reference View Post
    Nicodemus was a righteous man. Had he died before the cross he would have gone to the abode of the righteous dead, Paradise, abraham's bosom to await Jesus to set him free.
    There is no record that Nick responded to Jesus message of being born again, nor does it say that Nick believed on Jesus. John 3:12 indicates that Nick was an unbeliever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You don't believe that you have been justified, sanctified and redeemed, 1 Corinthians 1:30.

    If you did you would not be preoccupied with your holiness. We are called to REST in the Gospel. You are not resting, you are still trying to be good enough, Hebrews 4:10.
    You just proved you are a speaker of untruths.

    Jesus justified, sanctified and redeemed me.

    You are the one who preaches falseness and goes against God.

    You said Jesus does not wash us.

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    [04-07, 08:18] Robert Pate: Jesus doesn't wash. He justifies by his life, death and resurrection.

    [04-07, 08:13] God's Truth: The righteousness of Jesus means Jesus washed me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Being born again is something that you do not understand. It is a subjective experience that happens when some one accepts the fact that they are a lost sinner and need to be saved. You have never been there.
    [04-07, 08:18] Robert Pate: Jesus doesn't wash. He justifies by his life, death and resurrection.

    [04-07, 08:13] God's Truth: The righteousness of Jesus means Jesus washed me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    Nothing in my provided explanation of the passage in question speaks directly to predestination, Robert. The point of Our Lord's statement is to point out that no one can born themselves, as it is something God does. Our Lord is not telling Nicodemus to take personal responsibility and save himself. Man is born again, regenerated, from above. Afterwards, said man will take personal responsibility and believe, for in this regenerated state man will not not want to believe. Think about it and maybe it will come to you.

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    A person is born again when Jesus saves them by washing away all their sins that they repented of and then he himself lives in us.

    That is being born again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross Reference View Post
    Nicodemus was a righteous man. Had he died before the cross he would have gone to the abode of the righteous dead, Paradise, abraham's bosom to await Jesus to set him free.
    Jesus said that those who confess him before men, he will also confess him before the angel of God. But whoever denies him will be denied.

    Luke 12:8I tell you, everyone who confesses Me before men, the Son of Man will also confess him before the angels of God. 9But whoever denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God.

    Jesus didn't like it that there were leaders and Pharisees who believed in him in secret.
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    Remember, God's angels are going to bring the saved to Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus said that those who confess him before men, he will also confess him before the angel of God. But whoever denies him will be denied.

    Luke 12:8I tell you, everyone who confesses Me before men, the Son of Man will also confess him before the angels of God. 9But whoever denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God.

    Jesus didn't like it that there were leaders and Pharisees who believed in him in secret.

    To reject the Gospel and justification by faith is to reject Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    There is no record that Nick responded to Jesus message of being born again, nor does it say that Nick believed on Jesus. John 3:12 indicates that Nick was an unbeliever.
    Nicodemus helped bury Jesus.

    "And Nicodemus, who at first came to Jesus by night, also came, bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about a hundred pounds. Then they took the body of Jesus and bound it in strips of linen with the spices, as the custom of the Jews is to bury." (John 19:39-40)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Nicodemus helped bury Jesus.

    "And Nicodemus, who at first came to Jesus by night, also came, bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about a hundred pounds. Then they took the body of Jesus and bound it in strips of linen with the spices, as the custom of the Jews is to bury." (John 19:39-40)
    That's nice. But I would rather hear that Nick believed in Jesus. What was his response when the Jesus that he helped bury came out of the grave?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    That's nice. But I would rather hear that Nick believed in Jesus. What was his response when the Jesus that he helped bury came out of the grave?
    He rushed to tell keeper of the grave one of his favs was escaping.
    "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    To reject the Gospel and justification by faith is to reject Jesus.
    You reject what Jesus says.
    And you are proud of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Nicodemus helped bury Jesus.

    "And Nicodemus, who at first came to Jesus by night, also came, bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about a hundred pounds. Then they took the body of Jesus and bound it in strips of linen with the spices, as the custom of the Jews is to bury." (John 19:39-40)
    Nicodemus did not acknowledge Jesus before men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    A person is born again when Jesus saves them by washing away all their sins that they repented of and then he himself lives in us.

    That is being born again.
    Oh, foolish, foolish woman. What happens with those sins you did not repented of?

    Here you go again, gt, saying that the Lord ONLY washes away the sins YOU repent of, one more time declaring to Him that Him and his completed/finished work on the Cross of Calvary was not enough TO SAVE you and you, gt, must help Him and His already finished/completed work on the Cross of Calvary by repenting of some of your sins as you cannot remember all your sins, those of commission and those of omission.

    How sad. How sad indeed.
    No man can come to God except through Christ. (Jn. 14:20)
    No man can come to Christ unless he comes through the Cross. (Jn. 3:16; Eph. 2:1318)
    No man can come to the Cross without a denial of self. (Lk. 9:2324)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisgood View Post
    Oh, foolish, foolish woman. What happens with those sins you did not repented of?
    Why wouldn't I repent of all my sins?

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisgood View Post

    Here you go again, gt, saying that the Lord ONLY washes away the sins YOU repent of, one more time declaring to Him that Him and his completed/finished work on the Cross of Calvary was not enough TO SAVE you and you, gt, must help Him and His already finished/completed work on the Cross of Calvary by repenting of some of your sins as you cannot remember all your sins, those of commission and those of omission.

    How sad. How sad indeed.
    If you don't know your sins, then how are you not to repeat them?

    Maybe someone is committing adultery but doesn't think it is adultery?

    Are they forgiven?

    I am not helping Jesus by obeying him.

    I am doing right by obeying him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Why wouldn't I repent of all my sins?



    If you don't know your sins, then how are you not to repeat them?

    Maybe someone is committing adultery but doesn't think it is adultery?

    Are they forgiven?

    I am not helping Jesus by obeying him.

    I am doing right by obeying him.
    No person can remember every single sin he/she has committed. Oh, I forget, you, gt, can remember every single sin you have ever committed, those of commission and also those of omission, and you have repented of EVERY SINGLE one of them just like you OBEY ALL of Jesus' commandment.
    No man can come to God except through Christ. (Jn. 14:20)
    No man can come to Christ unless he comes through the Cross. (Jn. 3:16; Eph. 2:1318)
    No man can come to the Cross without a denial of self. (Lk. 9:2324)

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