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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    That is your opinion. You have nothing to back up your opinion.
    You go against what is plainly written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    The Spirit's law is the law the Spirit wrote with his own finger.
    Contention is not good. Are you agreeing or not?

    The Spirit's law is all the law, old and new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You go against what is plainly written.
    It is plainly written that your righteousness stinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    It is plainly written that your righteousness stinks.
    That is what you say about God cleaning me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    That is what you say about God cleaning me.
    You don't believe that you have been justified, sanctified and redeemed, 1 Corinthians 1:30.

    If you did you would not be preoccupied with your holiness. We are called to REST in the Gospel. You are not resting, you are still trying to be good enough, Hebrews 4:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Jesus said, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God" John 3:3.
    More redundant posting that has been answered, yet ignored by you, Robert:

    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4848714

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    More redundant posting that has been answered, yet ignored by you, Robert:

    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4848714

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    Being born again is something that you do not understand. It is a subjective experience that happens when some one accepts the fact that they are a lost sinner and need to be saved. You have never been there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Being born again is something that you do not understand. It is a subjective experience that happens when some one accepts the fact that they are a lost sinner and need to be saved. You have never been there.
    If it is subjective, then it is not eternal. Only "objective" things are eternal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jsanford108 View Post
    If it is subjective, then it is not eternal. Only "objective" things are eternal.


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    Then why did Jesus tell Nick that he needed to be born again? John 3:7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Then why did Jesus tell Nick that he needed to be born again? John 3:7.
    This is why:
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4848714

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    This is why:
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post4848714

    Take up and read, Robert.

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    The words of Jesus refute you. "That WHOSOEVER believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:15.

    The call is to believe in Jesus. Nothing about being predestinated or being forced to believe in Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The words of Jesus refute you. "That WHOSOEVER believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:15.

    The call is to believe in Jesus. Nothing about being predestinated or being forced to believe in Jesus.
    Nothing in my provided explanation of the passage in question speaks directly to predestination, Robert. The point of Our Lord's statement is to point out that no one can born themselves, as it is something God does. Our Lord is not telling Nicodemus to take personal responsibility and save himself. Man is born again, regenerated, from above. Afterwards, said man will take personal responsibility and believe, for in this regenerated state man will not not want to believe. Think about it and maybe it will come to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    Nothing in my provided explanation of the passage in question speaks directly to predestination, Robert. The point of Our Lord's statement is to point out that no one can born themselves, as it is something God does. Our Lord is not telling Nicodemus to take personal responsibility and save himself. Man is born again, regenerated, from above. Afterwards, said man will take personal responsibility and believe, for in this regenerated state man will not not want to believe. Think about it and maybe it will come to you.

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    There is NOTHING in the New Testament about anyone receiving the Holy Spirit without hearing and believing the Gospel, Galatians 3:2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Then why did Jesus tell Nick that he needed to be born again? John 3:7.
    Because he had to to receive eternal life. Still objective.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jsanford108 View Post
    Because he had to to receive eternal life. Still objective.


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