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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    The old law was Spiritual too.

    You don't even know that Jesus' blood washes us.

    You should stop trying to be a teacher and admit the things you say are against God.

    Washing is symbolic for justification. You want to avoid the doctrine of justification because it refutes your holiness doctrine. It appears that you hate Paul and his epistles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Washing is symbolic for justification. You want to avoid the doctrine of justification because it refutes your holiness doctrine. It appears that you hate Paul and his epistles.
    What kind of spirit do you have that keeps on as if it is right when it knows it is wrong?
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    There is no Gospel in the Old Testament. The Gospel was revealed to the apostles on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2.

    We don't know who the "Them" is in Hebrews 4:2.
    Oh, c'mon Robert Pate. The Gospel is displayed in shadow in the OT. That's why Paul said that the Bereans were smart dudes to check him out. Where do you think the Bereans go to check Paul out? To the NT that didn't exist yet?
    No man can come to God except through Christ. (Jn. 14:20)
    No man can come to Christ unless he comes through the Cross. (Jn. 3:16; Eph. 2:1318)
    No man can come to the Cross without a denial of self. (Lk. 9:2324)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisgood View Post
    Oh, c'mon Robert Pate. The Gospel is displayed in shadow in the OT. That's why Paul said that the Bereans were smart dudes to check him out. Where do you think the Bereans go to check Paul out? To the NT that didn't exist yet?
    No one really understood what Jesus had accomplished in his life, death and resurrection until the day of Pentecost, Acts 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The scripture speaks for its self. If the shoe fits, wear it.
    I agree but then that means yours are the wrong feet.
    "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross Reference View Post
    I agree but then that means yours are the wrong feet.
    That is your opinion. You have nothing to back up your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    We don't know who the "Them" is in Hebrews 4:2.
    "This is he who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the Angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai" (Acts 7:38)

    This may well be over your head.

    The OT church resisted God's Spirit.

    "You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you." (Acts 7:51)

    People were added to the church. (Acts 2:47)

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    The Spirit's law is all the law, old and new.
    The Spirit's law is the law the Spirit wrote with his own finger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    No one really understood what Jesus had accomplished in his life, death and resurrection until the day of Pentecost, Acts 2.
    I wonder then, why did Paul commended the Bereans and not the Thessalonians.
    No man can come to God except through Christ. (Jn. 14:20)
    No man can come to Christ unless he comes through the Cross. (Jn. 3:16; Eph. 2:1318)
    No man can come to the Cross without a denial of self. (Lk. 9:2324)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    No one really understood what Jesus had accomplished in his life, death and resurrection until the day of Pentecost, Acts 2.
    You have more stuff with you than a Christmas turkey.
    "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    That is your opinion. You have nothing to back up your opinion.
    Try me! Put up or shut up!
    "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    "This is he who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the Angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai" (Acts 7:38)

    This may well be over your head.

    The OT church resisted God's Spirit.

    "You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you." (Acts 7:51)

    People were added to the church. (Acts 2:47)
    Good thinking here, Jamie. But then, it could be the church [Bride of Christ] as we understand it, began in John 20:22. Either way, I can receive it.
    "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" Philippians 2:15 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross Reference View Post
    Good thinking here, Jamie. But then, it could be the church [Bride of Christ] as we understand it, began in John 20:22. Either way, I can receive it.
    "Then he remembered the days of old, Moses and his people, saying: 'Where is He who brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of His flock? Where is He who put His Holy Spirit within them'" (Isaiah 63:11)

    Moses was the original pastor of God's congregation to which people were added in the NT congregation.

    The OT group was converted to the NT group.

    "He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins." (Colossians 1:13)

    The pronoun "us" refers to those redeemed by Jesus' blood with regard to the forgiveness of sins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisgood View Post
    Oh, c'mon Robert Pate. The Gospel is displayed in shadow in the OT. That's why Paul said that the Bereans were smart dudes to check him out. Where do you think the Bereans go to check Paul out? To the NT that didn't exist yet?
    Robert Pate got it right that Calvinists are false, but he can't see his own flaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross Reference View Post
    I agree but then that means yours are the wrong feet.
    You are a Calvinist/Lutheran, and a nowadays tongue speaker/prophesier.

    You go against what God says.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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