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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    SSM people and their advocates are quick to charge us with bigotry and hate. They are free to cast aspersions but not willing to receive them.
    So who has charged you with bigotry on this thread?

    I'm simply suggesting that your long-winded waffle about marriage is innaccurate, is all.
    And your idea that the World (or 'we' as you wrote) is not overpopulated is...... scary!



    PS. Wow! Just a second.
    Some time ago there was a poll to do with who supported the death penalty for SSintercourse.
    If I pop back and check...... were you one of the members that supported the death penalty, or not? Help me out here.... save me from having to check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    I doubt that the Catholic Church will carry out ssm services, but it may recognise SSMs, SSUs, SSP's, SSC-Ps in time.
    You don't understand Catholic "time." Centuries, is how the Church thinks. Centuries, and millennia. This recent SSB/SSM kick our culture's on right now? 'Catholic Church couldn't care less; it's transient, just like is everything that isn't her herself.
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    Never say 'never'.
    It was more like an always. The Catholic Church will always teach that SSB and SSM are illicit and invalid, respectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    So who has charged you with bigotry on this thread?

    I'm simply suggesting that your long-winded waffle about marriage is innaccurate, is all.
    And your idea that the World (or 'we' as you wrote) is not overpopulated is...... scary!



    PS. Wow! Just a second.
    Some time ago there was a poll to do with who supported the death penalty for SSintercourse.
    If I pop back and check...... were you one of the members that supported the death penalty, or not? Help me out here.... save me from having to check.


    PSS. That was back in 2005....... you never voted.
    But, on the side, if a SS couple were caught in sexual activity, would you support the death penalty?
    Tell us that you not support any prosecution or DP and we'll all be mighty relieved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Yes. Answer the question.


    I have never done a single thing to SSM people.
    You are advocating discrimination and propagating some rather disturbing falsehoods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    You don't understand Catholic "time." Centuries, is how the Church thinks. Centuries, and millennia. This recent SSB/SSM kick our culture's on right now? 'Catholic Church couldn't care less; it's transient, just like is everything that isn't her herself.
    It was more like an always. The Catholic Church will always teach that SSB and SSM are illicit and invalid, respectively.
    Fair enough.
    I have been told exactly the same thing by another Catholic here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    You are advocating discrimination and propagating some rather disturbing falsehoods.
    The OP and following posts sure do show a very mixed up idea about what marriage should be. Some marriages may follow some similar tenet, but for me marriage was always about love, understanding, togetherness, sharing life together, devotion....... and not much to do with child-bearing. And SS couples deserve to have all of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    But if he doesn't agree with their politics, he is automatically a bigot. Yes?
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    The belief that it's no different in function or value to actual marriage.
    So people who don't agree with your politics are second class citizens undeserving of the rights and priveledges you enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    But if he doesn't agree with their politics, he is automatically a bigot. Yes?
    Ha ha.... you do try it on.... Glassjester.
    I love the way that you tangle up your questions as they point the reader to the answer that you require...... YES?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    You are advocating discrimination and propagating some rather disturbing falsehoods.
    I am not advocating discrimination. What I listed is facts. Just because they disturb you, doesn't make them falsehoods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    So who has charged you with bigotry on this thread?

    I'm simply suggesting that your long-winded waffle about marriage is innaccurate, is all.
    And your idea that the World (or 'we' as you wrote) is not overpopulated is...... scary!



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    You and your pals charged me with bigotry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    I'm having a hard time in understanding how you think that you can get away with taking my sentence.......
    'And whilst doing that why not just leave SSM alone?'
    ....... then popping 'people' on the back of it and flying off into your rhetorical drivvle about 'free-speech'.... which you hate when it doesn't suit you....?

    Now that's a kind of deception, Climate Sanity.
    But clearly I've kicked your motor into gear...... look at all those deceptive posts..... Wow!
    I never hate free speech. You must be letting your imagination run wild again.

    Popping people on the back over your charge that I am somehow assaulting SSM people? What does that even mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Eider responded to this quote "Redefining marriage is also a direct and demonstrable threat to religious freedom because it marginalizes those who affirm marriage as the union of a man and a woman. This is already evident in Massachusetts and Washington, D.C., among other locations."

    He said that is doing something to SSM couples.

    It's speech dude. I'm entitled to it. SSM couples are not entitled to restrict me from saying it.

    Speech doesn't do anything to anyone unless it's directing violence or slandering someone.

    That quote doesn't qualify.
    When you put up your OP and its numerous false claims *cough* lies *cough* you were admitting to (actually since it is written it is libel)and harming people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    I am not advocating discrimination.
    Yeah you did just that with yoru OP


    What I listed is facts.
    I noticed remarkably few facts in your OP. Loads of unsupported opinions but not facts.


    Just because they disturb you, doesn't make them falsehoods.
    The lack of supporting evidence or reason make them falsehoods

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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    Fair enough.
    I'm glad you think so.
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    I have been told exactly the same thing by another Catholic here.
    I'm leery of Catholics. I'm not Catholic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    You dunno?
    Obviously you don't mean me......... you mustr be thinking of people in love who want to forge a happy contented union......

    And you dug all this sin up from...... where, exactly?
    I wasn't talking to or about you, specifically. I didn't even read what you had posted. I was referring to those who change the natural use of women or men into that which is against nature.

    Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

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