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    Calvinism Eliminates God's Great Judgment Day

    If everything has been decided by God before the foundation of the world, then what need is there for a judgment? Why judge the lost again? Were they not judged to be lost by God before the foundation of the world according to Calvinism?

    This is just one of the many problems associated with Calvinism. God is a God of judgment. The word judgment or judgments is found in the Bible over 430 times. God judges everything. If he didn't judge he would not be holy, just, merciful and righteous. All of the judgments that God makes are perfect and complete. The word "Judgment" in the Hebrew means, "A verdict (favorable or unfavorable) pronounced judicially, especially a sentence or formal decree (human or divine law, individual or collective) including the act, the place, the suit, the crime and the penalty". Nothing is going to escape God's judgment.

    There will not be a judgment for those that are "In Christ" for sins, Romans 8:1. Their judgment has ALREADY taken place in Jesus Christ. They were put to death in Christ, Romans 6:6. Not only them, but the whole world was put to death in Jesus Christ, John 12:31, but only believers will escape the judgment. Those that are not in Christ will be judged according to God's Holy Law and condemned simply because "There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10.

    The purpose of the judgment is to determine who is lost and who is saved. This will be determined in the judgment and not before the foundation of the world as Calvinist seem to believe. Paul said, "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that everyone may receive the things done in his body, according to that which he has done, whether it be good or bad" 2 Corinthians 5:10. While it is true that there is no condemnation for those that are in Christ. There may be the loss of rewards for sins done in the flesh, 1 Corinthians 3:13-15.

    Everything will be revealed in the judgment. Paul wrote, "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my Gospel" Romans 2:16. To be judged according to the Gospel is to be judged to see whether or not one believes the Gospel. All that believe the Gospel are perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10. Those that don't believe the Gospel will be found in their sins and condemned.

    Jesus said, "For there is nothing covered that shall not revealed; neither hid that shall not be made known. Therefore whatsoever you have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which you have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops" Luke 12:2,3. It is very apparent that the judgment is going to be a great thing. God is going to make all of the wrongs right and all of the rights will be rewarded. Unfortunately, those that say but "Lord, Lord, Didn't we..." Will hear those dreadful words, "Depart from me I never knew you" Matthew 7:21-23.

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    Calvinist don't want to challenge this article because they know that its true. Calvinism is an attempt to not only eliminate "God's great judgment day". They also try to eliminate the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

    I don't know why they just don't write their own Bible like the Mormons did. That way they could eliminate the word "whosoever" and the word "world" these two words are very troublesome for them. If you are having trouble with God's word it could be that you are on the wrong train going in the wrong direction. The Bible, that I believe to be God's word, is very easy to understand, if you will read it with an open mind. But if you are trying to make the Bible fit your religion it won't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Calvinist don't want to challenge this article because they know that its true. Calvinism is an attempt to not only eliminate "God's great judgment day". They also try to eliminate the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

    I don't know why they just don't write their own Bible like the Mormons did. That way they could eliminate the word "whosoever" and the word "world" these two words are very troublesome for them. If you are having trouble with God's word it could be that you are on the wrong train going in the wrong direction. The Bible, that I believe to be God's word, is very easy to understand, if you will read it with an open mind. But if you are trying to make the Bible fit your religion it won't make sense.
    Why would anyone challenge an article that has not been attributed?

    And why do you continually project your own faults and sins upon others?
    "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

    " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
    Gordon H. Clark

    "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    Why would anyone challenge an article that has not been attributed?

    And why do you continually project your own faults and sins upon others?
    Attributed to what?

    The article is not about me and my faults and sins. The article is about how Calvinist, like yourself, destroy God's word with your phony, unbiblical doctrine.

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    The righteous will rejoice when we see the judgment.
    Jesus saves completely. http://www.climatedepot.com/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Titus 1

    For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped

    Ephesians 5

    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    If everything has been decided by God before the foundation of the world, then what need is there for a judgment?

    The purpose of the Judgment is to reveal who are the Sons / Children of God Eph. 1:4-5 [Christ's Sheep] John 10:11,15, whom Christ gave His Life for VERSUS the condemned sons / children of the devil John 8:44; Mat. 13:38 [the goats]!

    ALL FOR THE GLORY OF GOD!

    Mat. 25:31-34; 41, 46
    31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
    32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
    33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
    34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
    46 And these [goats] shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous [Sheep] into life eternal.
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    Mr. Pate,

    Great observation!
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

    Pro scripture = Protestant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    The purpose of the Judgment is to reveal who are the Sons / Children of God Eph. 1:4-5 [Christ's Sheep] John 10:11,15, whom Christ gave His Life for VERSUS the condemned sons / children of the devil John 8:44; Mat. 13:38 [the goats]!

    ALL FOR THE GLORY OF GOD!

    Mat. 25:31-34; 41, 46
    31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
    32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
    33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
    34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
    46 And these [goats] shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous [Sheep] into life eternal.
    HOGWASH!

    According to the Calvinist doctrine everything was decided before the foundation of the world. This eliminates the need for a Gospel and the judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    HOGWASH!

    According to the Calvinist doctrine everything was decided before the foundation of the world. This eliminates the need for a Gospel and the judgment.

    Apparently you're in disbelief of those scriptures I posted, right?


    Originally Posted by Nanja

    The purpose of the Judgment is to reveal who are the Sons / Children of God Eph. 1:4-5 [Christ's Sheep] John 10:11,15, whom Christ gave His Life for VERSUS the condemned sons / children of the devil John 8:44; Mat. 13:38 [the goats]!

    ALL FOR THE GLORY OF GOD!

    Mat. 25:31-34; 41, 46
    31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
    32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
    33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
    34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
    46 And these [goats] shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous [Sheep] into life eternal.
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    Apparently you're in disbelief of those scriptures I posted, right?


    Originally Posted by Nanja
    Because you reject the saving work of Christ that was done on your behalf, for your salvation. You will never see heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Because you reject the saving work of Christ that was done on your behalf, for your salvation. You will never see heaven.
    You don't believe that the Death of Christ saved all them He died for!
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    You don't believe that the Death of Christ saved all them He died for!
    Because Christ didn't die for all mankind?
    1 Corinthians 15:1-2 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV -


    Colossians 1:13-14 KJV - Colossians 1:15-16 KJV - Colossians 1:17-18 KJV -

    Colossians 1:19-20 KJV - Colossians 1:21-22 KJV - Colossians 1:23 KJV -

    Colossians 1:25-26 KJV 27, 28, 29 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Ephesians 1:12-13, 14 -



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    You don't believe that the Death of Christ saved all them He died for!

    How many scriptures do you need that says Jesus died for the sins of the world? I only need one, 1 John 2:2. The God and savior that I believe in is able to save to the uttermost, Hebrews 7:25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    How many scriptures do you need that says Jesus died for the sins of the world? I only need one, 1 John 2:2. The God and savior that I believe in is able to save to the uttermost, Hebrews 7:25.

    And you already have been shown numerous times that according to the scriptures, not all of humanity shall be saved from their sins, but sent to the second death to pay the price for their own sins.

    Rev. 21:8
    But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    So, for you to continue in you error of saying that Christ died for the sins of every person that ever lived in the world, you are guilty of blasphemy against the efficacy of Christ's Blood to save all those it was shed for!
    My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
    when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    And you already have been shown numerous times that according to the scriptures, not all of humanity shall be saved from their sins, but sent to the second death to pay the price for their own sins.

    Rev. 21:8
    But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    So, for you to continue in you error of saying that Christ died for the sins of every person that ever lived in the world, you are guilty of blasphemy against the efficacy of Christ's Blood to save all those it was shed for!

    To say that Jesus did not atone for the sins of the world is to profess that Jesus is not Lord.

    "I said therefore unto you, THAT YOU SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS: for if you believe not that I am he: YOU SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS" John 8:24.

    No one will be saved if they do not believe that Jesus is Lord.

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