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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    Did I say that?

    I am a son of God, I John 3:1-2, Romans 8:14, aren't you?
    When I am proving that Jesus is God, you compare Jesus to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    When I am proving that Jesus is God, you compare Jesus to us.
    Actually, since scripture does not teach that Jesus is God, but rather the son of God. Huge difference.

    Actually, I do not compare myself with anyone if I can avoid it for it is unprofitable.

    2 Corinthians 10:12

    For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

    However since Jesus as some like to call him is but a mere man, though I find nothing mere about him, I do like to learn from his perfect and complete example of what God made humans capable in their love and service to God.

    If Jesus is God, then what he did is boring, after all, if he created the heavens and the earth, feeding four and five thousand and healing people and casting out devils is nothing to him.

    Yet we are to do the same works and greater works John 14:12

    If you really believe that Jesus is God and Jesus told you that you can do greater works than God himself, what works would that be?
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    Actually, since scripture does not teach that Jesus is God, but rather the son of God. Huge difference.

    Actually, I do not compare myself with anyone if I can avoid it for it is unprofitable.

    2 Corinthians 10:12

    For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

    However since Jesus as some like to call him is but a mere man, though I find nothing mere about him, I do like to learn from his perfect and complete example of what God made humans capable in their love and service to God.

    If Jesus is God, then what he did is boring, after all, if he created the heavens and the earth, feeding four and five thousand and healing people and casting out devils is nothing to him.

    Yet we are to do the same works and greater works John 14:12

    If you really believe that Jesus is God and Jesus told you that you can do greater works than God himself, what works would that be?
    You are no apostle helping to lay the foundation.

    The foundation has been laid.

    You think that we could do more than Jesus, but you do not think you could die for the sins of the world, right?

    Don't you know that Jesus came from heaven? We did not come from heaven.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    When I am proving that Jesus is God, you compare Jesus to us.
    Jesus Christ is a human being just like he is supposed to be.

    Acts 3:22

    Jesus is that prophet that God told Moses about

    A prophet that the Lord your God would raise up unto you of your brethren

    He was speaking to humans, those brethren were humans, thus Jesus is a human.
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You are no apostle helping to lay the foundation.

    The foundation has been laid.

    You think that we could do more than Jesus, but you do not think you could die for the sins of the world, right?

    Don't you know that Jesus came from heaven? We did not come from heaven.
    Actually, the phrase, "born again" literally means "born from above"

    How's them apples?
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Because you say Jesus was just using figure of speech.
    Evidently you are not aware that parables are figures of speech, it is one kind of figure of speech, one kind of over 200 kinds.
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    Evidently you are not aware that parables are figures of speech, it is one kind of figure of speech, one kind of over 200 kinds.
    Jesus was speaking the truth and not a figure of speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    Actually, the phrase, "born again" literally means "born from above"

    How's them apples?
    I just said Jesus came from heaven. Do you realize that Jesus existed in heaven before coming to earth?

    As for being born again, we are born again when we repent of our sins and Jesus washes them away and then lives inside of us. We have a new life without sins, we are born again.

    Now explain to me how many Spirits you have living inside you besides your own.

    You said you had the Holy Spirit living in you.

    Do you have the Father living in you?

    Do you have Jesus living inside you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus was speaking the truth and not a figure of speech.
    Do you know what figures of speech are and why they are used?

    If wish to deny that Jesus spoke in parables, that is your choice
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    I just said Jesus came from heaven. Do you realize that Jesus existed in heaven before coming to earth?

    As for being born again, we are born again when we repent of our sins and Jesus washes them away and then lives inside of us. We have a new life without sins, we are born again.

    Now explain to me how many Spirits you have living inside you besides your own.

    You said you had the Holy Spirit living in you.

    Do you have the Father living in you?

    Do you have Jesus living inside you?
    Jesus' beginning, Matthew 1:18

    Have you read it?

    God is the Holy Spirit and calls himself the Father.

    His first born begotten son is Jesus Christ.

    The gift from God, who calls himself the Holy Spirit and the Father gave us of His spirit, I John 4:13, that gift of holy spirit from the Holy Spirit is called by various words, such as the inner man, Christ in you, the gift of eternal life, salvation......

    I do not have "Jesus" in me, I have Christ in me. Colossians 1:27, do you know the difference?
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    Do you know what figures of speech are and why they are used?

    If wish to deny that Jesus spoke in parables, that is your choice
    Parables are not figure of speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    Jesus' beginning, Matthew 1:18

    Have you read it?
    God sent his Son into the world. John 3:17.

    Jesus came from the Father. See John 1:14.

    Jesus came down from heaven. See John 6:38. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.

    John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man.

    John 6:62
    Then what if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!

    John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

    John 17:24 "Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.


    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post

    God is the Holy Spirit and calls himself the Father.
    The Bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post

    His first born begotten son is Jesus Christ.

    The gift from God, who calls himself the Holy Spirit and the Father gave us of His spirit, I John 4:13, that gift of holy spirit from the Holy Spirit is called by various words, such as the inner man, Christ in you, the gift of eternal life, salvation......

    I do not have "Jesus" in me, I have Christ in me. Colossians 1:27, do you know the difference?
    Jesus is the Christ. He says that he himself will live in the saved. If you don't have Jesus in you then you are not saved.

    2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test?

    Galatians 4:6 Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, Father."

    John 17:26 I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Parables are not figure of speech.
    Actually they are, they are not literal, thus they are figures of speech.

    The are extended similes
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    God sent his Son into the world. John 3:17.

    Jesus came from the Father. See John 1:14.

    Jesus came down from heaven. See John 6:38. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.

    John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man.

    John 6:62
    Then what if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!

    John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

    John 17:24 "Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.




    The Bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit.



    Jesus is the Christ. He says that he himself will live in the saved. If you don't have Jesus in you then you are not saved.

    2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test?

    Galatians 4:6 Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, Father."

    John 17:26 I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”
    Do you have any verses that actually say "Jesus is the Holy Spirit"?

    No, you do not.

    Please read scripture before you offer your unfounded conclusions.

    John 5:39 Search the scriptures

    Where was John the B sent from? John 1:6

    References to Jesus coming down from heaven refer to his divine conception. His conception was divine, not earthy in origin.

    If it means anything else, the who is John the Baptist? A fourth member of some multigod?
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

    Pro scripture = Protestant

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    Actually they are, they are not literal, thus they are figures of speech.

    The are extended similes
    They are literal.
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