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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    Simple observation.
    There was no intent to insult? Really?


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    Rubbish. What you are attempting to do is intermingle one tenet with others, all different, and that is devious....... and you wander about the subject matter, looking for loopholes..... sneaky, creeping. Get it?
    How can I be "sneaking" if I am openly explaining my intent?

    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    Separate Thread! Separate subject matter!
    Stick to Gay Marriage please!


    Separate Thread!
    But to end your deviation, what State do you live in?
    What is the legislation re the above in your State?
    Romans 13:1 !!!

    No. It belongs in this thread. Think clearly about this, Eider. Your rationale for the legalization of homosexual marriage is what, exactly?

    Now once you've put forth a reasonable justification for the re-definition of marriage, you absolutely must account for the possible consequences of your new definition. So what is your definition of marriage? What is your rationale for homosexual marriage?

    And let's carefully examine what consequences arise.


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    So you believe that the Scottish Episcopal Church is immoral, without morals, evil?
    I believe their vote is meaningless to me. They have no authority to declare moral dogma.


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    And I would wish for such happiness to be extended as far and as wide as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    There was no intent to insult? Really?

    How can I be "sneaking" if I am openly explaining my intent?
    Your words caused the definitions, as explained.

    No. It belongs in this thread. Think clearly about this, Eider. Your rationale for the legalization of homosexual marriage is what, exactly?
    My country's legislation is a good rationale to hold to.
    We vote for the governments that we wish for, and we obey the laws that are written.
    'click'...... Gay Marriage is the wish of the majority and upheld here.
    Easy.

    Now once you've put forth a reasonable justification for the re-definition of marriage, you absolutely must account for the possible consequences of your new definition. So what is your definition of marriage? What is your rationale for homosexual marriage?
    Already explained.

    And let's carefully examine what consequences arise.
    Gays can marry and be happy together.

    I believe their vote is meaningless to me. They have no authority to declare moral dogma.
    But you do.... surely?
    Quote your moral justification from the bible...... go on.

    Amen, brother! I am glad to hear it!
    Thankyou for those kind words. I just wish for Gays to have the same right to marry and be happy as I did/have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    Ha ha!
    You wandering devious creep.........
    The Thread is all about 'Gay Marriage', and... presumably because your tenets have been shot through-an'-through you've decided to introduce all manner of ideas, no doubt to throw the debate in other directions, to set up 'interference' and in crazy attempts to gain some foothold back, long lost now.
    You've hit that nail firmly on the head

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Are you implying that mixed race couples have the same moral status as incestuous couples?
    you've spent the whole thread going on about legality and now you present this duplicitous statement. I guess you did this because "your tenets have been shot through-an'-through you've decided to introduce all manner of ideas, no doubt to throw the debate in other directions, to set up 'interference' and in crazy attempts to gain some foothold back, long lost now."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    you've spent the whole thread going on about legality and now you present this duplicitous statement.
    You said, "Like miscegeny?"

    So I won't assume anything, man. You can explain, if you wish. How are homosexuality, incest, and polygamy like miscegeny?


    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    I guess you did this because "your tenets have been shot through-an'-through
    Which "tenets," exactly?
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    Your words caused the definitions, as explained.
    Okay - if you say so...

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    My country's legislation is a good rationale to hold to.
    We vote for the governments that we wish for, and we obey the laws that are written.
    'click'...... Gay Marriage is the wish of the majority and upheld here.
    Easy.
    Ok. That's just kicking the can down the road, though. The question is "why gay marriage?" and your answer is "the majority wants it."

    Well the obvious follow-up question is... Why does the majority want it?
    And... If the majority did not want it, would you want it to be illegal?

    Or do you only honor the will of the majority when it's in your favor?


    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    But you do.... surely?
    Definitely not!


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    Thankyou for those kind words. I just wish for Gays to have the same right to marry and be happy as I did/have.
    But incestuous couples should not have that right... right?
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    You said, "Like miscegeny?"
    and you put out the moral misdirection.

    So I won't assume anything, man. You can explain, if you wish. How are homosexuality, incest, and polygamy like miscegeny?
    You've been asked dozens of times just how homosexuality is comparable to incest. So you first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post

    Well the obvious follow-up question is... Why does the majority want it?
    maybe because the majority believes in the concepts of justice and equality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    ..............Ok. That's just kicking the can down the road, though. The question is "why gay marriage?" and your answer is "the majority wants it."
    The voters don't have to fill in any boxes on their voting paper to justify their vote.
    Their X is all that's required.

    Well the obvious follow-up question is... Why does the majority want it?
    And... If the majority did not want it, would you want it to be illegal?
    Ah...... right...... now, I can't answer for any others, but I support Gay Marriage because the risks associated with Homosexuality-in-Marriage are reduced to a mere nothing by comparison with ancient times. As you know, Moses' people needed to multiply for strength, and only heterosexual marriage could accomplish that. And ANY promiscuity of ANY kind was OUTLAWED, and therefore adultery, fornication, homosexuality were written down. Rape of a virgin 'back in the day' carried a compulsory marriage order for exactly the same reasoning.... everybody should only have one partner to prevent from transmitted sickness which could wipe out the whole people, just as shellfish-poison-paralysis could in an afternoon. But many extreme Christians don't understand the foundation and reasoning behind the 613 only looking for spiritual nonsense within. Today many Christians would pay no attention to the shellfish law thinking it to be an innocuous inclusion, whilst magnifying the Gay law into something HUGELY EVIL. Daft dangerous minsets imo.

    One TOL member named a prominent Christian who vigorously promotes anti-gay action, yet that man once had girlfriends (fornication) and diivorces (adultery) which he somehow minimises as 'alright', I suppose. I'm not suggesting that personally you minimise fornication or adultery as less serious than homosexuality, but many Christians seem to. But where I see hypocrisy from anti-gay Christians I just laugh.


    Or do you only honor the will of the majority when it's in your favor?
    Romans 13:1
    Regardless of our personal opinions, we must obey the laws of the lands that we live in. But we can campaign for change.


    But incestuous couples should not have that right... right?
    The health and sickness risks are the same today fopr incestuous marriage as 'back in the day'.
    That's why some countries insist on blood-tests before marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    Ha ha!
    You wandering devious creep.........
    The Thread is all about 'Gay Marriage', and... presumably because your tenets have been shot through-an'-through you've decided to introduce all manner of ideas, no doubt to throw the debate in other directions, to set up 'interference' and in crazy attempts to gain some foothold back, long lost now.

    Gay marriage has nothing to do with polyamorous marriage, polygamous marriage, polygamous consorts, harems, incestous relationships (incestuous marriage is illegal mostly everywhere) and any other stuff you try to dig up.


    Now..... The Scottish Episcopal Church has voted to recognise and support gay marriage, so that'll show you how Christianity is beginning to move away from your dubious version of it.

    And, on the side, the UK has just elevated a very very far left politician into striking distance of UK power.

    There..... how d'ya feel on this bright shining day?
    Church and Christianity are both moving away from adherence and obedience to scripture and the faith once for all delivered to the saints. So it is no surprise when both support gay marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    You've been asked dozens of times just how homosexuality is comparable to incest. So you first.
    They both deviate from the purpose of marriage - which is to create a stable union ordered toward procreation and upbringing of children.
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    The voters don't have to fill in any boxes on their voting paper to justify their vote.
    Their X is all that's required.
    Right. But that's the question of this thread. Why homosexual marriage?


    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    Ah...... right...... now, I can't answer for any others, but I support Gay Marriage because the risks associated with Homosexuality-in-Marriage are reduced to a mere nothing by comparison with ancient times.
    So how do you define marriage? What's its purpose?


    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    One TOL member named a prominent Christian who vigorously promotes anti-gay action, yet that man once had girlfriends (fornication) and diivorces (adultery) which he somehow minimises as 'alright', I suppose. I'm not suggesting that personally you minimise fornication or adultery as less serious than homosexuality, but many Christians seem to. But where I see hypocrisy from anti-gay Christians I just laugh.
    Yes, I agree wholeheartedly!

    In fact, adultery and fornication have proven much more harmful to society than homosexuality. I wish more people would open their eyes to the pure evil of those sins.


    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    The health and sickness risks are the same today fopr incestuous marriage as 'back in the day'.
    That's why some countries insist on blood-tests before marriage.
    You seem to be saying that the purpose of marriage is procreation. Is it?
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    Gays are not the ones to define the term 'marriage'.
    Governments and religions are doing that.

    Like could happen today.
    The Scottish Episcopal Church leaders are meeting in Edinburgh today to debate and vote on the question of 'should this church accept gay marriages?'
    It could vote against the proposal, but the mere fact that it is meeting to make such a vote should show you how many Creeds and Churches are moving towards gay marriage.
    I am sure that man accepting what God calls wrong will change His decrees against depravity ! NOPE , never going to happen.

    Men making perversion legal does not mean the act is not nasty, perverted,un-natural, and UN-healthy it just means the governments that legalize the nastiness are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    They both deviate from the purpose of marriage - which is to create a stable union ordered toward procreation and upbringing of children.
    You're starting to sound like chrysostom. Plenty of people get married without intending to have children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Right. But that's the question of this thread. Why homosexual marriage?

    So how do you define marriage? What's its purpose?

    Yes, I agree wholeheartedly!

    In fact, adultery and fornication have proven much more harmful to society than homosexuality. I wish more people would open their eyes to the pure evil of those sins.

    You seem to be saying that the purpose of marriage is procreation. Is it?
    Now...... come on.
    I gave you a clear and concise reason why Gay marriage should be supported today. You have read that.
    But now it's your turn. You have to explain clearly and concisely why Gay Marriage is wrong.

    You've got to try....... just try......

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