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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    No, it is not. You are against abortion - sin. You are against murder - sin.
    Sexual predation is sin. See RightDivider just ▲above▲ me too.

    You really need to re-think God in your life, Rusha. He is there, never silent.
    I am against abortion, murder and sexual abuse because it hurts other innocent individuals who are incapable or unwilling to consent to such actions.
    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes."
    When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics."
    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
    -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
    - ABRAHAM LINCOLN, letter to Joshua F. Speed, August 22, 1855





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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    So the only reason ANY couple marries is so that others see their private, sexual relationship as legit. Do you find that a decent reason for heterosexuals to marry? Good thing love has nothing to do with marriage.
    Can you give me another reason? Doesn't it come down to legitimacy? Civil unions were seen as making gay couple second class citizens even if they provided all the legal benefits that marriage does. It was very important to make sure the same name was applied to both, because it conveys legitimacy.

    I'm very open to instruction if I've got that wrong.


    Most people who are content in their own lives do not care. Then there is the whole "homosexuals should receive the DP" crowd.
    Even the "homosexuals receive the DP" crowd has no problems with a deep, loving relationship between two men, nor with men rooming together. It's the gay sex they hate.

    Which, of course, the same could be said about a heterosexual couple. So ban all marriages.
    Absolutely. Let marriage be something the state has no involvement with. Let all the legal privileges of marriage be conferred to any two people who want to covenant together.


    Sin is a religious concept.
    And I was talking about the religious people who are against the state recognizing gay marriage. I'm pointing out that those religious people have no problem with two men loving each other. In fact, their religion encourages it. They only have problems with two men having sex with each other.

    Therefore, the cultural battle over gay marriage is about gay sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    Your stupid is showing.
    I didn't know what you were referring to, with the post I commented on. Yet... you're immediately on the attack. Touchy.
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    Is that why your parents got married?
    My parents aren't gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    In so many words he said that he accepted polyamorous marriage (of one husband-two wives) if all spouses could be treated equally.
    And are you for that, as well?


    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    Incestuous marriages produced weak children, so that's damaging the health of and strength of.,... the whole community. So it was outlawed. That's why it's unlawful today.
    So you deny incestuous couples marriage equality, based on the chance that they might produce unhealthy children?

    Am I understanding your stance correctly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDante View Post
    It was also a crime to teach blacks to read and for women to own property.

    Do you miss those days?
    I do not. I am not the one arguing that something is wrong because it's illegal. I believe the converse must be sought after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selaphiel View Post
    That is just ridiculous. How about their physical relationship being an expression of a loving relationship. A loving relationship isn't reducible to that of two roommates.
    Minus sexual attraction, sure it is.

    If I wasn't sexually attracted at all to my wife, we'd be living together as, basically, brother and sister.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidK View Post
    Can you give me another reason? Doesn't it come down to legitimacy?
    Why do heterosexual couples marry? The same reasons apply to homosexual couples.
    As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes."
    When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics."
    When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty
    -- to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.
    - ABRAHAM LINCOLN, letter to Joshua F. Speed, August 22, 1855





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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    ....

    Romans 1:28,32

    Go figure a worldly man thinking he's a Christian
    Ah..... so Jesus never did say any such things.
    So Paul is your prophet........
    ......... interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    And are you for that, as well?
    The UK allows men with more than one wife to live here with them if they took refuge here.
    I accept UK law.

    So you deny incestuous couples marriage equality, based on the chance that they might produce unhealthy children?

    Am I understanding your stance correctly?
    Not just unhealthy, but sometimes seriously disabled.

    But Gay marriage cannot produce seriously disabled children, or do you think that it can?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Minus sexual attraction, sure it is.

    If I wasn't sexually attracted at all to my wife, we'd be living together as, basically, brother and sister.
    So are you saying that you married your wife just because you were sexually attracted to her?

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    STOP PRESS!
    The Scottish Episcopal Church has voted to support and carry out Gay marriage services.

    Another Church has seen the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    So are you saying that you married your wife just because you were sexually attracted to her?
    No - because I love her, am sexually attracted to her, and wish to produce and raise children with her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    The UK allows men with more than one wife to live here with them if they took refuge here.
    I accept UK law.
    How about 2 husbands and 2 wives? Or 1 husband and 10 wives? Or 10 husbands and 10 wives?

    Is there a limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    Not just unhealthy, but sometimes seriously disabled.
    Sometimes. Ok.

    Then you believe non-incestuous couples with heritable disorders should be denied marriage as well - right?


    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    But Gay marriage cannot produce seriously disabled children, or do you think that it can?
    Obviously I do not believe that homosexual couples produce children. Why the condescension?
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    OK Doser , If anyone commits a sexual crime such as molesting a child, raping a woman etc , he or she should be criminally prosecuted and put in jail . But if it's consensual sex in private between adults, it cannot and must not be considered a crime , and no one should ever be criminally prosecuted for this . When will you get this simple and obvious fact into your thick skull ?

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