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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    Because calling it slavery did not stick.
    Huh?
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    homosexuality was a crime
    But that's different!
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    It never ceases to amaze me how conservatives who scream about wanting "freedom " and "liberty ", "smaller government " and "limited government" literally want the government and the police in everyone's bedroom to make sure they're not having sex of the "wrong kind ".

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    ... literally want the government and the police in everyone's bedroom to make sure they're not having sex of the "wrong kind ".
    so you think the government should have no role to play in controlling sexual behavior?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyStan View Post
    Is there anyone among all you gay marriage supporters who can explain clearly , 'Why the modern cry for gay marriage?.' How can gay marriage be equal with traditional understanding of marriage?

    Lets face the blunt facts that anal intercourse is obviously not natural.

    The call for gay marriage and the many who support the concept only demonstrate how far our modern world has fallen into depravity!
    It may come as a surprise to the OP, but time spent engaged in sex, regular or otherwise, is a small fraction of married life!

    Up until relatively recently, "gays" could not engage in sex within marriage because such unions were not recognized by the state!

    The government cannot force Churches to perform or recognize "gay marriage", based on the separation of Church and State.

    Based on that same principle, however, the Church is not entitled to determine the only definition of "marriage" within a secular society!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    so you think the government should have no role to play in controlling sexual behavior?
    Just what role would the government play in controlling sexual behavior between consenting adults in a nation of 330 million Americans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Huh?
    Your stupid is showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    Just what role would the government play in controlling sexual behavior between consenting adults in a nation of 330 million Americans?
    Only 4% of which are gay

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden View Post
    It may come as a surprise to the OP, but time spent engaged in sex, regular or otherwise, is a small fraction of married life!

    Up until relatively recently, "gays" could not engage in sex within marriage because such unions were not recognized by the state!

    The government cannot force Churches to perform or recognize "gay marriage", based on the separation of Church and State.

    Based on that same principle, however, the Church is not entitled to determine the only definition of "marriage" within a secular society!
    The definition of sex has been since the first man and woman. Gay marriage is a very recent blurring of that definition. Gay marriage is an oxymoron

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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    How did you find all this out? Did you experience both, or something?

    Just you try (physically) over-ruling any couple's marriage, and see what the law will do to you!

    So Hetro-couples never experience lust for each other?
    How long have you been married, and I beg to ask, how many times?


    You didn't write in the name of love on this thread, so don't try it now.
    Gay marriage is an oxymoron. Love stands for the truth, and the truth is traditional marriage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    It never ceases to amaze me how conservatives who scream about wanting "freedom " and "liberty ", "smaller government " and "limited government" literally want the government and the police in everyone's bedroom to make sure they're not having sex of the "wrong kind ".
    I don't want to control their type of sex in their bedrooms. Keep the term marriage for the union of a man and a woman. This definition not for gays to re-define.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyStan View Post
    I don't want to control their type of sex in their bedrooms. Keep the term marriage for the union of a man and a woman. This definition not for gays to re-define.
    Gays are not the ones to define the term 'marriage'.
    Governments and religions are doing that.

    Like could happen today.
    The Scottish Episcopal Church leaders are meeting in Edinburgh today to debate and vote on the question of 'should this church accept gay marriages?'
    It could vote against the proposal, but the mere fact that it is meeting to make such a vote should show you how many Creeds and Churches are moving towards gay marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    So you'd be for the "equal marriage rights" of more than 2 spouses?
    Bahauallah put it quite well. In so many words he said that he accepted polyamorous marriage (of one husband-two wives) if all spouses could be treated equally.
    But I wouldn't expect you to be much impressed by Bahauallah.
    But then you might embrace his belief that gays could not be given a vote or sit upon government seats.....

    I get the feeling that you grab anything which might suit your needs, and throw down anything against.....?

    Me? I live in a country where refugees with two wives can keep them both.

    Why should it be a crime? Why are you against the equal marriage rights of a brother and sister?
    What you don't understand, cannot seem to grasp, is why the laws about marriage were given to Moses 'back in the day'. All of the 613 were intended for the protection of, health of, strength of, cohesion of..... the people.

    Incestuous marriages produced weak children, so that's damaging the health of and strength of.,... the whole community. So it was outlawed. That's why it's unlawful today.
    You try to think in terms of good and evil etc...... although you seem to go so horribly wrong even there.
    Mose's Laws were about health, strength, cohesion. There were no exceptions, so there's something for you to do..... looking for any exceptions..... but there aren't any.

    But Gay marriage is safe with regard to health, strength, cohesion etc...... so there's no reason why it should noty be lawful

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    homosexuality was a crime
    Yes it was. Gay marriage wasn't mentioned because it was anticipated and expected that folks would have children, so the the Israelites would increase, be stronger. But today we don't mind if the World population does not get bigger, stronger.

    You still think that the laws of Moses were all about good and evil..... poor thing. They were ALWAYS about strength, health, cohesion, growth..... every single one, including the sacrificial laws, all of them!

    Situations change, and that's why the Churches are slowly changing, like they always have done..... changed their canon laws. The Churches are slowly leaving the extremists behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eider View Post
    Bahauallah put it quite well. In so many words he said that he accepted polyamorous marriage (of one husband-two wives) if all spouses could be treated equally.
    But I wouldn't expect you to be much impressed by Bahauallah.
    But then you might embrace his belief that gays could not be given a vote or sit upon government seats.....

    I get the feeling that you grab anything which might suit your needs, and throw down anything against.....?

    Me? I live in a country where refugees with two wives can keep them both.



    What you don't understand, cannot seem to grasp, is why the laws about marriage were given to Moses 'back in the day'. All of the 613 were intended for the protection of, health of, strength of, cohesion of..... the people.

    Incestuous marriages produced weak children, so that's damaging the health of and strength of.,... the whole community. So it was outlawed. That's why it's unlawful today.
    You try to think in terms of good and evil etc...... although you seem to go so horribly wrong even there.
    Mose's Laws were about health, strength, cohesion. There were no exceptions, so there's something for you to do..... looking for any exceptions..... but there aren't any.

    But Gay marriage is safe with regard to health, strength, cohesion etc...... so there's no reason why it should noty be lawful
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