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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Yep, and by no less than God Himself.

    Evanescent grace/temporary faith
    False teaching.

    (Such nonsense is the result of teaching that God's grace is common to all men, which I have scripturally opposed for years!)

    God's grace always saves; is irresistible; is gifted only to an elect people chosen in Christ before creation; and proves to be permanent unto everlasting life.
    "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    False teaching.

    (Such nonsense is the result of teaching that God's grace is common to all men, which I have scripturally opposed for years!)

    God's grace always saves; is irresistible; is gifted only to an elect people chosen in Christ before creation; and proves to be permanent unto everlasting life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    1 Timothy 4:10 KJV -
    Either Universal salvation is true, or God's grace is particular to a chosen people.

    No middle ground . . .

    Are you a Universalist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    Either Universal salvation is true, or God's grace is particular to a chosen people.

    No middle ground . . .

    Are you a Universalist?
    If you insist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    False teaching.

    (Such nonsense is the result of teaching that God's grace is common to all men, which I have scripturally opposed for years!)

    God's grace always saves; is irresistible; is gifted only to an elect people chosen in Christ before creation; and proves to be permanent unto everlasting life.
    No, God's grace is the blood of Christ....which we access through faith. As Paul tells us, we are brought near (reconciled) by His death......much more, we shall be saved by His life when we access that grace through faith.

    Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

    Obviously, people can and do resist God's grace by refusing to be reconciled to Him.

    2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    Either Universal salvation is true, or God's grace is particular to a chosen people.

    No middle ground . . .

    Are you a Universalist?
    Shame on you. There is always a middle ground, and it's "saved by grace through faith".

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    You saw that they don't think any sin can be a rejection of sanctifying grace. They think salvation cannot be lost no matter what.

    They reject the very notion of mortal sin.
    That's what I meant, in saying they don't understand the distinction between grave sin, and mortal sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    1 Timothy 4:10 KJV -
    You use the scriptures as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

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    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lon View Post
    For man first, God second. Exactly backwards from the scriptural model.

    Wishful thinking. You DO defer to one group over and above another, and entirely built of off sexual desire and practice. Sorry, that sentiment ain't gonna fly. You step on good people to support the adverse. You walk on family in order to support alternative variations.
    Lon, your continued and repeated referrals to sexual practice and desire could show a tiny window into your own soul?

    Question:- If you, by giving up your soul and place in Heaven could save every othrer person in the World...... would you give it up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shopkinslpskids View Post
    Are you trying to make a point here? No one cares about what fake Hell-bound "churches" are doing.

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    Yes..... trying to make a point.
    The lists of Churches that support Gay friendship, and Gay Unions, and SSM are growing and increasing.
    It would seem that millions of Christians don't accept your kind of Christianity? And it's no good you ranting and raving about 'fake Hell-bound Churches' because their Faith might be more correct?

    Now, there are some religions that just won't tolerate Gays, or Gay unions, or SSM..... the public crane-hangings are regular features in some countries. I expect that you might feel more close to these religions than Christians-for-love? Please don't be offended, but do you feel close to Muslims on this issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    You use the scriptures as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination.
    You are a pantomime horse with two rear ends
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    It's not a lie. The gay fag community routinely rapes, molests and sodomizes children.
    a really stupid lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by shopkinslpskids View Post
    Homosexuality is a perversion. Most gay men are attracted to youthful boys. This is a fact I learned working with and around many gay men.

    You can't really make an argument about morals. Either someone has them, or they don't.

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    Considering what you are willing to say about an entire group of people one might think you are without morals

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    Quote Originally Posted by shopkinslpskids View Post
    You're the one pushing the gay agenda, so ...that makes you the wrong one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shopkinslpskids View Post
    America is a Christian country.






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    America is not and never has been a Christian nation. Indeed there can be no such thing, Jesus was quite clear that his kingdom had nothing to do with nation states.
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