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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Adam and Eve by their own free will chose to sin against God. Just like by your own free will you chose to sin against God.
    I hit the ground as a sinner and continued in my sin until I was saved.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    I hit the ground as a sinner and continued in my sin until I was saved.
    Had you died on your first birthday, where would you be now?
    Salvation by grace is not a divine game of limbo seeing how low one can go and still walk the walk. God has knocked us all down and said we cannot earn righteousness at all (Rom 3:10). He has taken away the limbo bar and declared the game over (Rom 4:5). -- Justin Johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Had you died on your first birthday, where would you be now?
    I only deal with reality. I didn't die.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    I hit the ground as a sinner and continued in my sin until I was saved.
    The question is what saved you? Did you save yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The question is what saved you? Did you save yourself?
    It is an impossibility to save oneself. If you understood what salvation is you wouldn't ask such a stupid question.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    It is an impossibility to save oneself. If you understood what salvation is you wouldn't ask such a stupid question.
    Did you have a religious experience and now you are saved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TulipBee View Post
    Hey Tulipbum

    Did not God create ALL things ? including freewill !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    It is an impossibility to save oneself. If you understood what salvation is you wouldn't ask such a stupid question.
    Is it possible for someone who has never heard the message of the Bible to come to know God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Is it possible for someone who has never heard the message of the Bible to come to know God?
    Stupid hypothetical question.

    I don't respond to "what if" "if" or "is it possible".
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    Stupid hypothetical question.

    I don't respond to "what if" "if" or "is it possible".
    Indulge me for a moment and try to answer it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    Stupid hypothetical question.

    I don't respond to "what if" "if" or "is it possible".
    The Bible plainly teaches that no one can come to Christ without hearing and believing the Gospel. Do you believe this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    The Bible plainly teaches that no one can come to Christ without hearing and believing the Gospel. Do you believe this?
    Not in the way you interpret it.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    Not in the way you interpret it.
    How about the way that the Bible interprets it.

    "Did you receive the Holy Spirit by the works of the law (because you did something) or by the hearing of faith" (hearing and believing the Gospel) Galatians 3:2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    How about the way that the Bible interprets it.

    "Did you receive the Holy Spirit by the works of the law (because you did something) or by the hearing of faith" (hearing and believing the Gospel) Galatians 3:2.

    You have a speculative notion of Messiah, and a barren notion of grace.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    You have a speculative notion of Messiah, and a barren notion of grace.
    Please stop dodging questions, Truster. Your intellectually dishonest side is showing.

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