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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Name an absurd argument. I have listed 10 by D'ists in a thread next door.
    I contend and maintain, based upon Scripture alone, that the Resurrection of the Lord Jesus from the dead is the Gospel.

    And to commemorate His Resurrection, the Lord taught His Church to baptize (Jn3:5KJV Mt28:19KJV, cf. Ro6:4KJV), and furthermore to celebrate the Eucharist, the eating of His body, and the drinking of His blood, which is a reference to 1st Corinthians 15:3 (KJV). Baptism is for when we first believe in the Resurrection, which is what it means to believe in Him (Ro10:9-10KJV and then Ro10:11KJV), and to remember the Resurrection/Him, we are taught to remember 1st Corinthians 15:3 (KJV) in celebrating the Eucharist.

    It's not an argument per se. It's just not cohesive.
    THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)

    Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Name an absurd argument.
    Your amateur psychology argument that Peter was in denial. Luke 18:31-34 (KJV)
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    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
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    You're too literal to get it.
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    The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    Paul said :


    If anyone advocates a different doctrine, and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions, and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. (1Timothy 6:3-5)

    Obviously by their own admission those in MAD is conceited and understands nothing;

    Not hardly a loss: I know WHO, WHERE,WHY, and HOW salvation was paid, and it was through Jesus Christ NOT Paul.
    Did the LORD teach again after he ascended?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Did the LORD teach again after he ascended?
    Sure He did He got a UN-saved legalistic man named Paul and taught Paul what He had already taught and opened the understanding of concerning the Gospel, the other Apostles, and brought Paul into the group.

    Jesus Never taught anyone to ignore His teachings and follow Paul only !
    Heb 4:2
    For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

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    "the wholesome words of the LORD Jesus" are the same as "the form of sounds words thou hast heard of me" written in Paul's letters

    Paul: "I MAGNIFY MINE OFFICE..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    "the wholesome words of the LORD Jesus" are the same as "the form of sounds words thou hast heard of me" written in Paul's letters

    Paul: "I MAGNIFY MINE OFFICE..."
    And Paul's office magnified who ? Hint: He was born in Bethlehem.
    Heb 4:2
    For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    And Paul's office magnified who ? Hint: He was born in Bethlehem.
    Yes, he ministry to was glorify the risen ascended LORD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Yes, he ministry to was glorify the risen ascended LORD.
    Paul summed up MAD in the following:

    1Co 1:13
    Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
    1Co 3:4
    For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
    1Co 3:5
    Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

    Paul said he was NOT above any other in presenting and leading others to Jesus. Exalting Paul is uniquely MAD.
    Heb 4:2
    For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

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    Acts 13:30-33 (KJV)
    But God raised him from the dead: 31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people. 32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, 33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
    THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)

    Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    Paul summed up MAD in the following:

    1Co 1:13
    Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
    1Co 3:4
    For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
    1Co 3:5
    Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

    Paul said he was NOT above any other in presenting and leading others to Jesus. Exalting Paul is uniquely MAD.
    But MADists profess only that they follow the Lord, they don't say, "I am of Paul," just that they believe that Paul in particular is the vessel or conduit through which Jesus Christ authoritatively teaches His Church today.
    THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)

    Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    But MADists profess only that they follow the Lord, they don't say, "I am of Paul," just that they believe that Paul in particular is the vessel or conduit through which Jesus Christ authoritatively teaches His Church today.
    MAD has moved Jesus and His teachings right out of His own Gospel and plugged Paul right in.
    Heb 4:2
    For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    MAD has moved Jesus and His teachings right out of His own Gospel and plugged Paul right in.
    With sincere Christian faith.
    THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)

    Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    With sincere Christian faith.
    Paul made the argument that it was "CARNAL" to latch onto and claim anyone other than Jesus.
    Heb 4:2
    For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    MAD has moved Jesus and His teachings right out of His own Gospel and plugged Paul right in.
    "Jesus and His teachings"

    Raise the dead....Show yourself to a Levitical priest....Sell all you have....Go to Jerusalem, 3 times/year, to keep the feasts....Pick up a poisonous snake....Drink some anti-freeze............................................ .................................................. ......................................


    I know, I know.....Out of context!!!!!!MAD is in error!!!!!!Lies!!!!!!!!Scripture says what it say!!!!!!MAD deception!!!!!Don't you believe scripture, MADists?!!!!!!! Out of context!!!!! Lies!!!!!...You follow Paul, not "Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


    We will pray for you, MADists....


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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    Paul made the argument that it was "CARNAL" to latch onto and claim anyone other than Jesus.
    He's all MADists "latch onto and claim" though, if you listen to them.

    Also, since the Lord never wrote anything down, but instead depended upon His Apostles to have the New Testament written, aren't you yourself "latching onto and claiming" someone other than Christ Jesus? He didn't write the New Testament, in which you trust for your own faith in Him.
    THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)

    Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)

    Trevor: "I know how to drive, man."
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