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    The hard sayings were to get Israel to wake up so they would get to work in his mission. They may not work with other ethnicities. Aramaic was very graphic. 'Go and sin no more' to that woman in Jn 8 is actually closer to 'Get out of here and knock it off.' Ie, not the warmest farewell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    So according to your ideas there will be unsaved people in the new heavens and the new earth despite the fact "there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life" (Rev.21:27).

    All you prove over and over is that you have no respect for what is actually written in the Scriptures.
    Jerry , you have confused the tribulation period (7) years with when the culmination of all things has happened and Jesus returns with the city of New Jerusalem to establish His eternal kingdom . Re-read it Jerry !
    Heb 4:2
    For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    Jerry , you have confused the tribulation period (7) years with when the culmination of all things has happened and Jesus returns with the city of New Jerusalem to establish His eternal kingdom . Re-read it Jerry !
    Welcome back, dodge, and....

    lol - you holding to a 7 year Tribulation

    According to Dispensationalists who hold the futurist view, the Tribulation is thought to occur before the Second Coming of Jesus and during the End Times. In this view, the Tribulation will last seven prophetic Hebrew years (lasting 360 days each) in all but the Great Tribulation will be the second half of the Tribulation period (see Matt 24:15 and Matt 24:21 showing the Great Tribulation is after the Abomination of Desolation, which marks the midpoint of the Tribulation).

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Tribulation
    Nevertheless, Romans 5:8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge View Post
    Jerry , you have confused the tribulation period (7) years with when the culmination of all things has happened and Jesus returns with the city of New Jerusalem to establish His eternal kingdom . Re-read it Jerry !



    do you think 21:1 is in the category of a 'return'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    The hard sayings were to get Israel to wake up so they would get to work in his mission. They may not work with other ethnicities. Aramaic was very graphic. 'Go and sin no more' to that woman in Jn 8 is actually closer to 'Get out of here and knock it off.' Ie, not the warmest farewell.
    100% made up. So he did not mean what he said in the sermon?
    You're sad.
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    You're too literal to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    'Go and sin no more' to that woman in Jn 8 is actually closer to 'Get out of here and knock it off.' Ie, not the warmest farewell.
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    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
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    You're too literal to get it.
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    The New Covenant preceded the Old Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    The hard sayings were to get Israel to wake up so they would get to work in his mission.


    Your rationalization and humanism knows no bounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    The hard sayings were to get Israel to wake up so they would get to work in his mission. They may not work with other ethnicities. Aramaic was very graphic. 'Go and sin no more' to that woman in Jn 8 is actually closer to 'Get out of here and knock it off.' Ie, not the warmest farewell.
    This is worth another
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    Yes, it defines what kind of messiah and king we have.
    1Pet 1:11-14 (AKJV/PCE)
    (1:11) Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. (1:12) Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into. (1:13) Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;(1:14) As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

    NOTE: The FUTURE grace!
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

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    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    The list: http://theologyonline.com/entry.php?...quot-list-quot Great Bible software: http://www.theword.net/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wick Stick View Post
    It's like the game 'telephone' that you used to play as a kid.

    After a 100 generations of passing down our interpretations of the scriptures, some of them are pretty far from the originals. It turns out nothing can cloud the meaning of Scripture quite like a long tutelage in their meaning, under the auspices of an erroneous tradition.
    You're hilarious. Someone needs a reality check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post


    Your rationalization and humanism knows no bounds.
    Remember, Mayor....You're too literal to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    This is worth another
    Ah....The mission....I was sleeping when the bible talked about the mission....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    1Pet 1:11-14 (AKJV/PCE)
    (1:11) Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. (1:12) Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into. (1:13) Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;(1:14) As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

    NOTE: The FUTURE grace!




    Yes, there is both. Re Christ, the glory that followed was the enthronement in Acts 2, which David said he foresaw. Because he was enthroned, he is to be preached everywhere to all men , to obey the Son, lest he be angry (Ps 2), so that all men come to the obedience of faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    Yes, there is both. Re Christ, the glory that followed was the enthronement in Acts 2, which David said he foresaw. Because he was enthroned, he is to be preached everywhere to all men , to obey the Son, lest he be angry (Ps 2), so that all men come to the obedience of faith.
    Made up
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    Hey RD,
    are you going to 'cancel' grace just because one passage mentions that it is also future? Hmmmmm.
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