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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    Even better than the writings of Josephus, is the actual sign itself from the wall. Archeologists in Jerusalem have found one of warning signs from the partition wall:

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    And, here is the translation:

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    Fighting one man's teachings with another man's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    Answer, weasel, yes, or no:

    Are you an Anti Semite, gay boy, and admitted Catholic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    Still waiting, little arms one, obsessed weasel, as I have asked,over 100 times, on TOL, for you to identify this alleged "the" Greek, or any "the Greek," that has "with Israel," in "the Greek" langauage, in the cited Ephesians passage. Over 4 years, and not a peep, from you, sweetie/ con "man"(loosely employed here).

    What's the problem? Your daddy the devil taught you well, from way back in Genesis-corrupt/take from-delete/add to/misquote the word of God?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    Answer, weasel, yes, or no:

    Are you an Anti Semite, gay boy, and admitted Catholic?
    What kind of spirit do you have that wants to defile other men?
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    Ok, we've confirmed that some Gentiles were given certain ordinances to keep during Acts. These Gentiles are the ones that had turned to God.

    So, which Gentiles would have been shut out by these ordinances? Yep, the pagan Gentiles.

    If the ordinances were taken away, this would open the door for which Gentiles? Yep, the pagan Gentiles.

    This is not difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    and her responded, "Get lost, creep." I reckon he is watching too many episodes of "Leave it to Beasver," or "My Three Sons." You reckon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Ok, we've confirmed that some Gentiles were given certain ordinances to keep during Acts. These Gentiles are the ones that had turned to God.

    So, which Gentiles would have been shut out by these ordinances? Yep, the pagan Gentiles.

    If the ordinances were taken away, this would open the door for which Gentiles? Yep, the pagan Gentiles.

    This is not difficult.
    Looks like Craigie suffered yet another "death knell," Mayor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heir View Post
    Ephesians 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

    The middle wall of partition was broken down "between us". The "between us" is between the "we" who first trusted (Ephesians 1:12 KJV) and the "ye" who also trusted (Ephesians 1:13 KJV). Paul includes himself in the "us" because he is the first (1 Timothy 1:16 KJV) of the "we" of Ephesians 1:12 KJV.
    Indeed, sister.

    While the gospel was still to the Jew first, certain ordinances were kept as to not offend the Jews who Paul was trying to reach. When the gospel was no longer to the Jew first, these ordinances were taken away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    Looks like Craigie suffered yet another "death knell," Mayor.
    Danoh may help him out against us evil "hybrids".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    A word or phrase used in one passage does not necessarily mean the same thing in another.

    This is why an indepth word study is ever needed.

    Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

    That is The Law, dear brother.

    The following is one of the very foundational ordinances that Paul is referring to...

    Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

    Circumcision.

    How am I wrong?

    Do a detailed study, break it down for us. Show me where the Acts 15 ordinances WEREN'T delivered to Corinth as commanded.
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    Danoh and "his" will affirm that Acts is a book of transition, but if we show by the scripture that Paul's ministry was also in transition, we are labelled "almost Acts 28".

    Shame on him and "his".
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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    Looks like Craigie suffered yet another "death knell," Mayor.
    You know what I think I'll do. Go down and pick up a pint of ice cream, go home, take a little nap, then read a few saint john posts. Yep, that's the plan. A little ice cream, home, nap, saint john posts. Ice cream, home......

    For the love of Mike, do it, do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    How am I wrong?
    You started out with Feldick, and headed south.
    Delight yourself in the LORD, And He shall give you the desires of your heart. . Psalms 37:4

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyc View Post
    You started out with Feldick, and headed south.
    Oh.

    Raised any dead this week?
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    @Lon is part preterist and, I believe, thinks Tet and IP are generally stupider than the MADs with whom Lon disagrees on basic principles. He can confirm or deny that for himself though.
    As a partial preterist, I see often, multiple fulfillment in the scriptures. Much of them prophetic concerning our Lord Jesus Christ. I am not sure of God's future plans for Israel. I agree with Paul, we are in a time where God is calling gentiles and Paul said it might cause Israel to be provoked to want Him. The question would be 'how?' Either corporate or individually, depending on how you believe. For me, there is a mystery to it. There is no question God loves Israel. He longed to gather them, He said.

    I used to be Dispensational. I never for a moment thought they were unintelligent and they made great biblical reasons for what they believe.

    I tend to 'admire' rather than fight with another's eschatology. I'd always rather discuss it those views and understand them.

    For me: where we agree about our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ, is of incredible importance. I count MAD among my brothers and sisters in Christ first and foremost and wish to show that love to all who are in Christ. I'll sit and learn, as I often do in this section. By 'learn' I may not (probably will stay with what I know) but I actually love these conversations, minus any accusatory. If I could just read scriptures and counter scriptures, it'd help me not have to dig as much

    On top of that, this is the ECT section. To me, it is supposed to encourage dialogue. My hope for this section was that it'd be more academic. I think it is, but it could use more emphasis.

    Genuinely, I love my brothers and sisters in Christ, sometimes cringe at what is said to another, and MAD really takes a pounding, and the rest of the time generally appreciate scripture point and counterpoint that 'seeks' to honor Him.

    If I could commend a bit of heat in the kitchen, it would be that: That you love Him so much that you wish to defend Him and His doctrine, whoever you are. The Lord Jesus Christ mellowed His sons of thunder. I don't remember Him rebuking them too much: There is a need to protect and correct.

    For Musterion: I do think Covenant Theology and/or Regular Dispensationalism, express overtly over spiritualizing of the text, in these threads, that I've seen. I cannot remember all of them, but a few come to mind where I am not even sure what was said could come from a commentary; It
    seems so completely removed from cogent thought, let alone scriptural derivative. Some of my first drafts on TOL can look pretty bad, so I try not to judge. I'm not a concrete sequential thinker as the rest of you and at times, it shows.

    His blessings. -Lon
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    Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

    Is Calvinism okay? Yep

    Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

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