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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Follow-up question.

    If Person A claims Person B believes something which A knows B absolutely never believed, is A a liar?
    Like when you guys call me a Catholic?
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    Josephus was a Jew, who actually went to the temple roughly in the same era that Paul went to the temple.

    Here is what Josephus said:

    "When you go through these [first] cloisters, unto the second [court of the] temple, there was a partition made of stone all round, whose height was three cubits: its construction was very elegant; upon it stood pillars, at equal distances from one another, declaring the law of purity, some in Greek, and some in Roman letters, that “no foreigner should go within that sanctuary” for that second [court of the] temple was called “the Sanctuary,” and was ascended to by fourteen steps from the first court." - War of the Jews, Book 5, Chapter 5, Verse 2

    Notice the warnings were written in Roman and Greek, but not Hebrew.

    Only a Jew could go beyond the partition wall.

    That's what Paul is referring to in Ephesians. No longer did the partition wall divide the Gentiles from the Jews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
    Do you see how your buddy Danoh joins forces with the Preterist because of a personal bias against heir and STP, the adequate?
    Yes, Mayor...Malcolm "Danohweather" has been a mite culiar, in recent months, morphing into quite the man pleaser, more interested in getting praise from other members, from both the non MAD camp, and Acts 2 camp, than the LORD God. The disintegration of the vertebrae/backbone is a serious illness. I told him that a spell back, and her responded, "Get lost, creep." I reckon he is watching too many episodes of "Leave it to Beasver," or "My Three Sons." You reckon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    That's a ridiculous.

    There was no partition wall between two different groups of Gentiles, nor between a group of Jews & Gentiles and a group of Gentiles, nor between a group of Jews & Gentiles and another group of Jews & Gentiles.

    The only middle wall of partition that ever existed, was a partition wall between Jew and Gentile.
    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    (Eph 3:6) This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.

    It's really that simple....unless of course you are trying to defend the false teachings of John Nelson Darby and E.W. Bullinger......
    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    ...The Greek...
    -Tet. the wimp, over 666 times on TOL, citing "the Greek," right after he spells "grammar," "grammer."


    Still waiting, little arms one, obsessed weasel, as I have over 100 times, on TOL, to identify this alleged "the" Greek, or any "the Greek," that has "with Israel, in the cited Ephesians passage. Over 4 years, and not a peep, from you, sweetie/ con "man"(loosely employed here).

    What's the problem? Your daddy the devil taught you well, from way back in Genesis-corrupt/take from-delete/add to/misquote the word of God?
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    Even better than the writings of Josephus, is the actual sign itself from the wall. Archeologists in Jerusalem have found one of warning signs from the partition wall:

    TempleWarning.jpg

    And, here is the translation:

    b667a6540bd176ac5c585602e9825c8d.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    Like when you guys call me a Catholic?
    You admitted you were a Catholic, habitual liar, on record, on TOL, asserting that MAD is wrong, since we follow the "teachings of fallable men," i.e., your Preterism/AD 70-ism was taught to you by infallible men. The only group that claims being taught by infallible men, is the Catholic Church, Catholic. Of course, Preterism/AD 70-ism has its roots in the Jesuits, a "version" of Catholicism.

    Want to see your own quotes, wimp, you acknowledging your Catholicism? Well, sweetie?
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    Yet another Death Knell to heir's OP:

    "When king Herod had rebuilt the Temple in Jerusalem between 19 and 9 B.C. he enclosed the outer court with colonnades. The large separated area was referred to as the Court of the Gentiles because the "gentiles" (non-Jews from any race or religion) were permitted to enter this great open courtyard of the Temple area. They could walk within in it but they were forbidden to go any further than the outer court. They were excluded from entering into any of the inner courts, and warning signs in Greek and Latin were placed giving strict warning that the penalty for such trespass was death. The Romans permitted the Jewish authorities to carry out the death penalty for this offence, even if the offender were a Roman citizen. The engraved block of limestone was discovered in Jerusalem in 1871. It's dimensions are about 22 inches high by 33 inches long. Each letter was nearly 1 1/2 inches high and originally painted with red ink against the white limestone. Part of another sign was unearthed in 1936." - SOURCE
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    All of you 'book readers' need to humble yourselves, telestai included.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    Josephus was a Jew, who actually went to the temple roughly in the same era that Paul went to the temple.

    Here is what Josephus said:

    "When you go through these [first] cloisters, unto the second [court of the] temple, there was a partition made of stone all round, whose height was three cubits: its construction was very elegant; upon it stood pillars, at equal distances from one another, declaring the law of purity, some in Greek, and some in Roman letters, that “no foreigner should go within that sanctuary” for that second [court of the] temple was called “the Sanctuary,” and was ascended to by fourteen steps from the first court." - War of the Jews, Book 5, Chapter 5, Verse 2

    Notice the warnings were written in Roman and Greek, but not Hebrew.

    Only a Jew could go beyond the partition wall.

    That's what Paul is referring to in Ephesians. No longer did the partition wall divide the Gentiles from the Jews.
    Quoting a Christ rejector, as usual. Craigie-the Josephus follower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    All of you 'book readers' need to humble yourselves, telestai included.
    Whether quotes from Josephus, or an actual stone that sits in a museum in Jerusalem, I will provide whatever it takes to defend the Word of God.

    heir is dead wrong about the two groups and the middle wall of partition.

    Her false teachings need to be stopped. It's really easy to refute her with scripture, but because she's dug herself in such a deep hole with her Act 9/Bullingerism, sometimes external sources are used.
    (1 Cor 1:13 KJV) Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    Yet another Death Knell to heir's OP:

    "When king Herod had rebuilt the Temple in Jerusalem between 19 and 9 B.C. he enclosed the outer court with colonnades. The large separated area was referred to as the Court of the Gentiles because the "gentiles" (non-Jews from any race or religion) were permitted to enter this great open courtyard of the Temple area. They could walk within in it but they were forbidden to go any further than the outer court. They were excluded from entering into any of the inner courts, and warning signs in Greek and Latin were placed giving strict warning that the penalty for such trespass was death. The Romans permitted the Jewish authorities to carry out the death penalty for this offence, even if the offender were a Roman citizen. The engraved block of limestone was discovered in Jerusalem in 1871. It's dimensions are about 22 inches high by 33 inches long. Each letter was nearly 1 1/2 inches high and originally painted with red ink against the white limestone. Part of another sign was unearthed in 1936." - SOURCE
    Wow, gay boy!!! Another death knell!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by john w View Post
    Quoting a Christ rejector, as usual. Craigie-the Josephus follower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    Whether quotes from Josephus, or an actual stone that sits in a museum in Jerusalem, I will provide whatever it takes to defend the Word of God.

    heir is dead wrong about the two groups and the middle wall of partition.

    Her false teachings need to be stopped. It's really easy to refute her with scripture, but because she's dug herself in such a deep hole with her Act 9/Bullingerism, sometimes external sources are used.
    They like it that you use those external sources. Why not stay only with the Lord?
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    Are you an Anti Semite, gay boy, and admitted Catholic?
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