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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    Someone tell AB nobody cares what he thinks
    Everybody notice CS cares enough about what AB thinks to post about it...which makes him nobody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    Like her calling black men superpredators? Nahh, thats not hate at all, or racist, right?
    The actual quote from the source, and not the disreputable reassignment of Trump or Priebus, is a bit different. Speaking in 1996 on the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, she said:

    "Just as in a previous generation we had an organized effort against the mob. We need to take these people on. They are often connected to big drug cartels, they are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called superpredators — no conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first, we have to bring them to heel."

    That's right, she's talking about gangs, not African-Americans. And yes she understood gang violence was disproportionately and African American problem, which is why when Bernie and some in the BLM movement made a stink she gave a quick statement of regret that inadvertently gave it legs for Trump et al later on (another reason to not vote for either) But if Angel thinks all gang members are black and so Clinton must have been taking a racial shot she has bigger problems to address than her fondness for the Confederate flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    Everybody notice CS cares enough about what AB thinks to post about it...which makes him nobody.
    Ya gotta love irony...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    Ya gotta love irony...

    No I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    No I don't.
    At least you're capable of appreciating it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    I like the confederate flag which simply means southern to me, am i a white supremacist because of it?
    Do you think it does a good job representing all Southerners? Or just some of them?

    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    I like it too, it's American history
    What part of history?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    I'd say that since these are protests at Confederate Monuments that are being torn down that this is what racism defeated looks like.
    It doesn't seem like they have all given up yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Do you think it does a good job representing all Southerners? Or just some of them?



    What part of history?
    1 Corinthians 15:1-2 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV -


    Colossians 1:13-14 KJV - Colossians 1:15-16 KJV - Colossians 1:17-18 KJV -

    Colossians 1:19-20 KJV - Colossians 1:21-22 KJV - Colossians 1:23 KJV -

    Colossians 1:25-26 KJV 27, 28, 29 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Ephesians 1:12-13, 14 -



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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Exactly.
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    A number of people have been commenting elsewhere in the public square on the nobility of my relative, the former Confederate general Robert E. Lee and suggesting his actions in relation to New Orleans outside of that war deserve a different treatment. They make the case for a number of good works done during Reconstruction and remind us of Lee's own act of freeing his slaves before that contest began. They say he is exceptional, beloved by many for things unrelated to the war and its cause...and that this should engender a different approach and respect.

    The lamentable fact is that no amount of good or recognition of the ill of slavery on Lee's part, no compulsion to defend his state (which itself would not necessitate taking on the leadership of all the Confederacy's armies) pardons battling to champion a state established to protect and promote it.

    If New Orleans had wanted to honor the other Lee it could have placed him on that pedestal without uniform. That it chose not to should inform us of its foundational intent, to pay homage to the myth of noble futility and the South that never really was...we don't need any of it. Southerners have offered the nation we nearly destroyed far better than that, more vital than that, and something we can all celebrate and go forward with together.

    I'd be the first to admit that for years I got this wrong, had a one sided and romantically myopic view of those monuments fed by my culture and the treatment of that time in film and literature by many. But Lee, who had sworn to protect the Union, who divested himself of slaves and recognized the evil of slavery had an even greater obligation to history than most. Lee is more, not less culpable because he knew better and chose the wrong course. He called the evil what it was then served its masters. However he couched it, the idea that the "defense" of a rebellious state should trump that moral truth is indefensible. He is a tragic figure, but a tragedy of his own making. That isn't something to commemorate.
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