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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Apparently it's just too complicated for you to grasp. Let me dumb it down for you.

    Just because you accuse me of lying doesn't make it so.

    1. What I said was the truth.
    2. What I said I believed to be the truth.
    3. What I said was proven by your every post.

    Therefore, what I said was not a lie...as you falsely claimed.
    Shalom.

    I believe that you said or implied that some kinds of lies are not lies. This is absolutely incorrect. I have no problem with what I have communicated to you.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    You are incorrect. God is my Savior. And Jesus is my Savior.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    Ah, trying to cover every base, are you?

    That's why you claim to be a Jew and a Christian, too.

    That's one way to get the attention you seek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    I believe that you said or implied that some kinds of lies are not lies. This is absolutely incorrect. I have no problem with what I have communicated to you.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    Oh, well then....what you believe is a lie. That's different from accusing someone of lying when they believe what they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Ah, trying to cover every base, are you?

    That's why you claim to be a Jew and a Christian, too.

    That's one way to get the attention you seek.
    Shalom. I am a Jew. I do not claim to be a Christian. I accept the TaNaKh and Matthew through Revelation.

    This is not about seeking attention. This is about people obeying God and Jesus and becoming disciples.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Oh, well then....what you believe is a lie. That's different from accusing someone of lying when they believe what they say.
    Shalom.

    Believing something is true or saying something is true does not make it true.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    What in the world are you talking about saying this is not a group?

    You don't speak right.

    I know you do not say Jesus is God, it is why I am debating you.

    I think you are either intentionally dishonest, or don't know any better.

    In either case, I will not reply to your posts any further.
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    Shalom.

    Jacob
    God's Truth. You gave me negative rep for a post and I looked and it is this one where I say

    Shalom.

    Jacob

    If there is any way in which this hurts you I do not know how or why. I am grieved by your decision to give me negative rep, but not so much for myself as it indicates that you feel that I have offended you but that you have no way to answer. My apologies. I did not see anything wrong in concluding our conversation with peace, as much as you may have been frustrated with the whole thing? In any case, shalom. God's peace to you. Be well, and may God richly bless you.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    Believing something is true or saying something is true does not make it true.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    Then you admit you lied about me. Good. It's a step in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Then you admit you lied about me. Good. It's a step in the right direction.
    Shalom.

    No. You have lost track. Look back at your post that started my refutation of what you were saying. You lied.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    No. You have lost track. Look back at your post that started my refutation of what you were saying. You lied.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    No, you do keep saying you "don't know" and you are seeking attention by repeating that over and over. You say you know...then you say you don't know....then you say you know...then you say you don't know. You say you're a Jew when you aren't. You say you have two Saviours...you just look at them differently. Well, you have succeeded in getting attention, and now you accuse me of lying. I haven't lied about anything. I've described you quite accurately....you just don't like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    No, you do keep saying you "don't know" and you are seeking attention by repeating that over and over. You say you know...then you say you don't know....then you say you know...then you say you don't know. You say you're a Jew when you aren't. You say you have two Saviours...you just look at them differently. Well, you have succeeded in getting attention, and now you accuse me of lying. I haven't lied about anything. I've described you quite accurately....you just don't like that.
    Shalom.

    No. You are projecting your experience with Jehovah's Witnesses on this website, on to me. You are saying things in this post I am responding to that our untrue about my conversation with you. You are saying that I have said things that I have not said. Here is what you wrote.
    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    A person isn't lying if they believe it to be true.
    When you believe that something is true that is not true it is still a lie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    Then you admit that you believe something to be true that is not true. It is still a lie.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    This should be When you admit that you believe something to be true that is not true, it is still a lie.

    I am a Jew. I observe Torah here in the United States of America. I am supposed to be in Israel, Jerusalem, three times per year for the annual feasts, according to Torah. It is true that currently there is no temple. I observed Passover the fourth time in as many years this year, here in the United States of America. There are seven holy days of Torah that I observe. There are other festivals, and there are fast days. If I cannot be in Israel I will continue to observe here. I would like to go to Israel so that I can fulfill the feasts there in Jerusalem. Otherwise I will continue to observe the 613 Commandments here in the United States of America with the rest of the congregation I attend or otherwise. I read the Hebrew for the Torah two Shabbats ago. God has blessed me in many ways as a Jew. I am Orthodox. I do not mix meat and dairy. I believe Yeshua to be the Messiah. I have no problem saying that God is the only Savior, my only Savior, and saying Jesus is my Savior as the Son of God though in a different way than saying God is my Savior.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    No. You are projecting your experience with Jehovah's Witnesses on this website, on to me. You are saying things in this post I am responding to that our untrue about my conversation with you. You are saying that I have said things that I have not said. Here is what you wrote.
    When you believe that something is true that is not true it is still a lie.This should be When you admit that you believe something to be true that is not true, it is still a lie.
    Wrong....a lie has to have intent to deceive in order to be a lie.

    I am a Jew. I believe Yeshua to be the Messiah. I have no problem saying that God is the only Savior, my only Savior, and saying Jesus is my Savior as the Son of God though in a different way than saying God is my Savior.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    I've known some Jews who became believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. They call themselves Completed Jews or Jewish Christians. I saw AMR explaining this to you...about your claim to be a Jew, but you ignored his post. Clearly, you make up your own set of rules that let you claim the impossible. If you aren't a Christian, Jesus Christ is not your Saviour. Jews reject Jesus Christ unless they become Christians.

    I've never quite seen a Trans-believer like you.

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    Shalom.
    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Wrong....a lie has to have intent to deceive in order to be a lie.
    No. You might believe a lie without knowing it to be a lie. To spread untruth is to lie as well. If something is not true it is a lie, whether you know it to not be true or not.
    I've known some Jews who became believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. They call themselves Completed Jews or Jewish Christians. I saw AMR explaining this to you...about your claim to be a Jew, but you ignored his post. Clearly, you make up your own set of rules that let you claim the impossible. If you aren't a Christian, Jesus Christ is not your Saviour. Jews reject Jesus Christ unless they become Christians.
    No. You are incorrect. I am not a Completed Jew. I observe Torah and accept the TaNaKh and Matthew through Revelation. The new covenant is for the house of Israel and the house of Judah. It is God's law written on minds and hearts. I am a new covenant believer. I may have Jewish blood, but it is my observance that matters (to God) not to whom I was born or who my ancestors are.

    Jesus Christ is my Savior. I am not a Christian. Many were called Christians.

    Christianity with or without the Trinity was also a question for me.
    I've never quite seen a Trans-believer like you.
    I have no idea what you mean by that. I do not know what you mean by Trans-believer, but it is not about me. I am not whatever you think I am. I am a Jew.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Jacob,

    Are you for the building of another earthly temple?

    Are you for the sacrificing of animals if an earthly temple is built?
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jacob,

    Are you for the building of another earthly temple?

    Are you for the sacrificing of animals if an earthly temple is built?
    Shalom.

    Yes, and yes. I do not know if it will be Ezekiel's temple next.

    Shalom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    Yes, and yes. I do not know if it will be Ezekiel's temple next.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    Don't you know that if you are saved you have God's Spirit in you and you are the temple?

    Don't you know that Jesus is the Sacrificial Lamb of God once and for all?
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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