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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    No. What I am saying is that you are correct that God is the only Savior. Now read the verses that say that. They are not the same as verses that say that Jesus is the Savior. There is no contradiction.

    Shalom.

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    Of course they are not the same verses, but they speak of the same God. So here we see "God our Saviour" and "Jesus Christ our Saviour" all in the same text.

    Titus 3:4-6 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

    Here we see God saying "Beside me there is no Saviour."

    Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no Saviour.

    And here we see Paul tells us, "NOW made manifest by the APPEARING of our Saviour Jesus Christ..."

    2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

    So, either God was lying when He said there is no other Saviour besides Him or God was telling us that He and Jesus Christ are the same God and Saviour. I'm convinced God does not lie, nor would He mislead us. He is making it clear that He and Jesus Christ are the ONE SAVIOUR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beameup View Post
    Here is the ESV, which is derived using the Dead Sea Scrolls:
    So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel,[fn] saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.”
    Peniel literally means "the face of God"
    Shalom.

    My response that you are replying to was to someone else, not you. Please take a look.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Of course they are not the same verses, but they speak of the same God. So here we see "God our Saviour" and "Jesus Christ our Saviour" all in the same text.

    Titus 3:4-6 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

    Here we see God saying "Beside me there is no Saviour."

    Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no Saviour.

    And here we see Paul tells us, "NOW made manifest by the APPEARING of our Saviour Jesus Christ..."

    2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

    So, either God was lying when He said there is no other Saviour besides Him or God was telling us that He and Jesus Christ are the same God and Saviour. I'm convinced God does not lie, nor would He mislead us. He is making it clear that He and Jesus Christ are the ONE SAVIOUR.
    Shalom.

    You have created a false delimma.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    You have created a false delimma.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    I've "created" nothing. I'm merely exposing your own inconsistencies on this subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    I've "created" nothing. I'm merely exposing your own inconsistencies on this subject.
    Shalom.

    There is no inconsistency. It has to do with the way you are looking at it. You need to accept all of scripture. I have explained this to you but you have stubbornly chosen to abide with or by your prior preconceptions.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    There is no inconsistency. It has to do with the way you are looking at it. You need to accept all of scripture. I have explained this to you but you have stubbornly chosen to abide with or by your prior preconceptions.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    Just wondering, do you feel closer to God and more holy by saying 'peace' in Hebrew?

    You say 'shalom' so much. You say it before and after what you write.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Just wondering, do you feel closer to God and more holy by saying 'peace' in Hebrew?

    You say 'shalom' so much. You say it before and after what you write.
    Shalom.

    The word shalom means peace. I come in peace and I leave in peace, or I give you my peace. People misunderstand this if I do not say it, but I do it of my own free will and in the peace of God.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    There is no inconsistency. It has to do with the way you are looking at it. You need to accept all of scripture. I have explained this to you but you have stubbornly chosen to abide with or by your prior preconceptions.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    You have explained nothing, except what you "don't know". You've been quite stubborn in doing that.


    What you have made clear is that you have no interest in finding answers to all those things you "don't know".

    Since it seems you're only here for attention, I'll leave you to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    The word shalom means peace. I come in peace and I leave in peace, or I give you my peace. People misunderstand this if I do not say it, but I do it of my own free will and in the peace of God.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    Why not say it in English?

    Why say it every single post?

    I can see a person saying it at the beginning of a debate, and maybe at the end, but why every single post? It seems strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    You have explained nothing, except what you "don't know". You've been quite stubborn in doing that.


    What you have made clear is that you have no interest in finding answers to all those things you "don't know".

    Since it seems you're only here for attention, I'll leave you to that.
    Shalom.

    I have shared with you what I know, but you have said I am stubborn, don't know, and that I am here for attention. You are lying about these things, but you don't know.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Why not say it in English?

    Why say it every single post?

    I can see a person saying it at the beginning of a debate, and maybe at the end, but why every single post? It seems strange.
    Shalom.

    Every post may be my last. I am a Jew, so I say Shalom. There is nothing wrong with saying peace, but it is a different language - English.

    Shalom.

    Jacob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    I have shared with you what I know, but you have said I am stubborn, don't know, and that I am here for attention. You are lying about these things, but you don't know.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    A person isn't lying if they believe it to be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    A person isn't lying if they believe it to be true.
    Shalom.

    Then you admit that you believe something to be true that is not true. It is still a lie.

    Shalom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.

    Every post may be my last. I am a Jew, so I say Shalom. There is nothing wrong with saying peace, but it is a different language - English.

    Shalom.

    Jacob
    Even a Jew wouldn't necessarily say it as you do.

    I am sensitive to a different kind of spirit which shows in the way you write.

    For instance, the spirit of the Muslims is to say PBUH. They say it every time they mention a prophets name. It is as a superstitious ritual.

    I have noticed this strange type of obsession with the member Squeaky too, as when he says 'I said' before posting.

    I also see strange writing styles with John W., and Truster, just to name a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    A person isn't lying if they believe it to be true.
    That isn't the guideline for telling the truth.
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