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    HOW SERIOUS ARE DOCTRINAL ERRORS?

    DEADLY SERIOUS.



    2 PETER 2:1,2,3 KJV
    But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

    And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

    And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
    Last edited by Truster; May 12th, 2017 at 01:46 PM.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    DEADLY SERIOUS.



    2 PETER 2:1,2,3 KJV
    Deadly is right.

    “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Matthew 7:21–23 (NKJV)

    "Missed it by that much." ~ Maxwell Smart, Get Smart
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    Matthew 7:15 KJV

    "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves".

    These false teachers come in disguise. They only appear to be sheep, but they have come to destroy. Messiah Himself has warned these will be hard to recognise. Many people who follow their doctrinal errors will think they are pleasing Elohim. They will however be rejected because they have not done His will. Instead they have actually been workers of iniquity.


    "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."



    DEADLY SERIOUS.


    Proverbs 14:12 KJV
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Very serious!

    Only 4-point Calvinists can be saved.

    All 5-points are a loss.

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    1 Timothy 4:1,2 KJV

    Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the trust, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;


    A man does not have to be openly immoral to teach such doctrines. He would claim to trust in Elohim and the Bible and lead moral life. He would be a hypocrite and as such a deceiver: he fools people to think that he is upright and reverent when he is not. Those who trust his teaching may be honest, sincere people who have been deceived, but they may well be lost and hear those awful words...depart from Me.


    DEADLY SERIOUS.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    those awful words...depart from Me.
    'You think that it is possible to believe that He rose from the dead on the third day, and then to hear Him say these words to you? I don't.

    And you're a goof; but I like you, and that's even knowing that you're probably going to urinate on me verbally in a moment.
    "To be deep in history, is to cease to be Protestant"---Newman

    Matthew 16:18 AENT "I say also to you that you are Keefa, and on this Keefa I will build my assembly, and the gates of Sheol will not subdue it." (BR, emphasis mine)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    'You think that it is possible to believe that He rose from the dead on the third day, and then to hear Him say these words to you? I don't.
    Jas 2:19, Lk 21:34

    As a reminder Nihilo is number 10 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in the Religious Zealots (saved by works crowd) category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    'You think that it is possible to believe that He rose from the dead on the third day, and then to hear Him say these words to you? I don't.

    And you're a goof; but I like you, and that's even knowing that you're probably going to urinate on me verbally in a moment.
    I know for an absolute fact that I won't hear those words.

    Do you really think I'm warning myself here?

    I'm warning you and the likes of you who walk in impiety and take the name of Yah Shua in vain.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serpentdove View Post
    Jas 2:19, Lk 21:34

    As a reminder Nihilo is number 10 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in the Religious Zealots (saved by works crowd) category.
    I could tell there was a screw loose, but I couldn't work out which one.

    You'd think that those who trust in works would work harder at ridding themselves of irreverence, vulgare talk and impiety?

    Thanks for that.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    People that go to "Church" do so in the hope that it won't be too serious. That the guy up the front won't go talking about sin and judgement. Let him keep the talks topical rather than doctrinal.

    That is what the people want and so that is what the people get.


    "The time will come when men will not endure sound doctrine, but will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts, and will turn aside from truth to fables."


    Paul charged faithful teachers to preach the truth and rebuke such errors.


    DEADLY SERIOUS
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    1 John 4:1 KJV

    "Do not believe every spirit, but put them to the test, because many false prophets have gone out into the world".

    John emphasises "many" and so as there were many false prophets there will be many false teachers. The term false teacher is only used once in scripture, but there are many warnings against false teaching in which other phrases are used in describing it.



    Jer 23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.

    Jer 23:22 But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.


    DEADLY SERIOUS
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    I could tell there was a screw loose, but I couldn't work out which one.

    You'd think that those who trust in works would work harder at ridding themselves of irreverence, vulgare talk and impiety?

    Thanks for that.
    Matt. 11:28, 29


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    2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

    And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    And for this cause Elohim shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.



    Love the truth. If you have been set free by the truth then you will love the truth. If you are indifferent to the truth then you are still in the bond of iniquity.

    The most definite sign of new birth is an insatiable hunger for the word and then a desire to eat the pages of a Bible just to get it inside you.


    Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O Yah Veh Elohim Sabaoth. Jeremiah 15:16




    DEADLY SERIOUS
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Galatians 1:6-9

    I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel
    which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ
    But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!
    As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!


    One of the greatest dangers a man who has saved by grace faces is being drawn into the evangel mixed with keeping of the law. This is “another evangel which is not really an evangel”. Having been converted he is often subjected to the need to keep the sabbath holy and once there he’ll be expected to tithe. The poor soul will then be offered words of encouragement that he is “doing well” and pride has him snared.
    There is the perfect law of liberty that Paul calls the law of trust and then there is the law that binds with rigour to obedience and threatens damnation for non-performance.
    The former is a blessing in deed while the latter binds to works.

    Paul uses strong language about these false preachers and says they should be accursed. He also tells the Galatians that they have deserted Messiah and gone to Moses.

    The children of promise will always be brought out from this snare. They will discover at some point that he is different from these law keepers and he will begin to despise their teaching as they are in opposition to what he experienced.


    DEADLY SERIOUS.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    I could tell there was a screw loose, but I couldn't work out which one.

    You'd think that those who trust in works would work harder at ridding themselves of irreverence, vulgare talk and impiety?

    Thanks for that.
    serpentdove has a couple screws loose
    1 Corinthians 15:1-2 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV -


    Colossians 1:13-14 KJV - Colossians 1:15-16 KJV - Colossians 1:17-18 KJV -

    Colossians 1:19-20 KJV - Colossians 1:21-22 KJV - Colossians 1:23 KJV -

    Colossians 1:25-26 KJV 27, 28, 29 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Ephesians 1:13, 14 -

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