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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Leftists who have spent the last 6 months blaming the evil Comey as responsible for Hillary losing the White House are now trumpeting him as a martyr victim of the evil Trump. Very strange. Makes one wonder if they really believe anything they say.
    In their delusional idealism, the end justifies the means.
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    So keep your candles burning
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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Leftists who have spent the last 6 months blaming the evil Comey as responsible for Hillary losing the White House are now trumpeting him as a martyr victim of the evil Trump. Very strange. Makes one wonder if they really believe anything they say.
    Ive asked that same thing and mentioned the same whine they had claiming he is who lost her the white house, yet silence, weird how they dont see their own flip flops all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steko View Post
    In their delusional idealism, the end justifies the means.
    yep. truth be damned as long as they get what they want. One day they will see they dont really want what they get from it though.

    "Around the country, progressive bullies have attacked Christians for daring to put their faith ahead of the pet causes of those who feign compassion while destroying life-giving liberties. What we are seeing is a scorched-earth, take-no-prisoners approach as the wildfire burns across our land. It is not enough that Christians be quiet. Christians must be silenced and punished. Their faith cannot be respected. Legislation that ensures people are free to live and work according to their faith without fear of being punished by government must be stopped and decried as discrimination...There is one key reason that those on the Left must force their beliefs on the rest of us: if they didn't force their craziness on us, we would never embrace it." ~Erick Erickson
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    Jeff Sessions and the Justice Department are helping Trump lie

    Trump’s tendency to surround himself with yes men and force them to compete for his favor is well known — it’s a core feature of his management style. But while it’s been clear since inauguration that this tendency has infected the functioning of the White House, it’s only now becoming apparent that it’s infected the basic functioning of the entire federal government.
    People whose loyalty to government precedes loyalty to Trump are distrusted and, often, pushed out. Those who are brought in — even if they appear from the outside to be statesmen — can be counted on, when the chips are down, to put their loyalty to Trump first. The Trump administration, broadly construed, cannot be trusted; it’s up to the career civil servants below them in the executive branch to protect the federal government’s remaining integrity.

    Sessions and Rosenstein allegedly invented a lie to satisfy Trump

    On May 9, after two weeks on the job, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein wrote a memo to Attorney General Jeff Sessions about how James Comey had undermined the public’s trust in the FBI by mishandling the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server in 2016. Sessions immediately sent the memo to Trump with a cover letter recommending Comey be fired; Trump fired Comey the same day, with his own letter, and notified him only after the fact — Comey learned of the firing himself only after seeing the news on a television screen.(You can read Andrew Prokop’s full explainer on the firing here.)
    No one — even the White House itself — pretends this is the whole story.
    It would be hard enough to believe that the firing of Comey over a 2016 investigation was so urgent that it had to be announced before Comey himself could be told. It would be harder still to believe that the firing offense was something that both Trump and Sessions praised at the time — both Comey’s initial characterization of Clinton’s email setup as “extremely careless” during a July press conference announcing the closure of the investigation and his decision to reopen the investigation in October, days before the election, when potential new evidence was discovered.
    But as it is, it’s impossible to believe because the White House isn’t even trying. President Trump on Wednesday, when asked why Comey was fired, said vaguely that he “wasn’t doing a very good job,” with no reference whatsoever to the email investigation. Deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters Wednesday that Trump had been considering firing Comey since the election.
    And immediately after news of Comey’s firing became public, reporters at multiple outlets started hearing a very different story about what had happened from White House staff.
    According to reports from the New York Times, Politico, and others, the decision to fire Comey came from Trump himself several days ago. Trump was reportedly infuriated by continued attention to the FBI’s investigation into potential ties between his presidential campaign and the Russian government, and had focused that anger toward Comey. The Times reported that Sessions was tasked with finding a reason to fire someone Trump already wanted gone.
    The bottom line is that Rosenstein and Sessions gave President Trump what he wanted: a bipartisan pretext for a decision to fire a government official who also happened to be investigating Trump’s campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Jeff Sessions and the Justice Department are helping Trump lie

    Trump’s tendency to surround himself with yes men and force them to compete for his favor is well known — it’s a core feature of his management style. But while it’s been clear since inauguration that this tendency has infected the functioning of the White House, it’s only now becoming apparent that it’s infected the basic functioning of the entire federal government.
    People whose loyalty to government precedes loyalty to Trump are distrusted and, often, pushed out. Those who are brought in — even if they appear from the outside to be statesmen — can be counted on, when the chips are down, to put their loyalty to Trump first. The Trump administration, broadly construed, cannot be trusted; it’s up to the career civil servants below them in the executive branch to protect the federal government’s remaining integrity.

    Sessions and Rosenstein allegedly invented a lie to satisfy Trump

    On May 9, after two weeks on the job, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein wrote a memo to Attorney General Jeff Sessions about how James Comey had undermined the public’s trust in the FBI by mishandling the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server in 2016. Sessions immediately sent the memo to Trump with a cover letter recommending Comey be fired; Trump fired Comey the same day, with his own letter, and notified him only after the fact — Comey learned of the firing himself only after seeing the news on a television screen.(You can read Andrew Prokop’s full explainer on the firing here.)
    No one — even the White House itself — pretends this is the whole story.
    It would be hard enough to believe that the firing of Comey over a 2016 investigation was so urgent that it had to be announced before Comey himself could be told. It would be harder still to believe that the firing offense was something that both Trump and Sessions praised at the time — both Comey’s initial characterization of Clinton’s email setup as “extremely careless” during a July press conference announcing the closure of the investigation and his decision to reopen the investigation in October, days before the election, when potential new evidence was discovered.
    But as it is, it’s impossible to believe because the White House isn’t even trying. President Trump on Wednesday, when asked why Comey was fired, said vaguely that he “wasn’t doing a very good job,” with no reference whatsoever to the email investigation. Deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters Wednesday that Trump had been considering firing Comey since the election.
    And immediately after news of Comey’s firing became public, reporters at multiple outlets started hearing a very different story about what had happened from White House staff.
    According to reports from the New York Times, Politico, and others, the decision to fire Comey came from Trump himself several days ago. Trump was reportedly infuriated by continued attention to the FBI’s investigation into potential ties between his presidential campaign and the Russian government, and had focused that anger toward Comey. The Times reported that Sessions was tasked with finding a reason to fire someone Trump already wanted gone.
    The bottom line is that Rosenstein and Sessions gave President Trump what he wanted: a bipartisan pretext for a decision to fire a government official who also happened to be investigating Trump’s campaign.
    Vox, the total liberal rag mag whose been caught creating false news and lies, even worse than mother jones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel4Truth View Post
    Vox, the total liberal rag mag whose been caught creating false news and lies, even worse than mother jones.
    Was Michael Flynn fake news, or have you figured that one out yet?
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Leftists who have spent the last 6 months blaming the evil Comey as responsible for Hillary losing the White House are now trumpeting him as a martyr victim of the evil Trump. Very strange. Makes one wonder if they really believe anything they say.


    Since when has an egocentric, self-absorbed Neanderthal like Donald Trump done the Democrats any favors - least of all Hillary Clinton?

    Whatever his reasons for terminating the FBI Director, we can all be sure of one thing - it has absolutely nothing to do with Comey's treatment of Clinton 9 months ago.

    The White House is so clueless, that they didn't anticipate the political firestorm Trump created, thinking that the Democrats would be so gullible as to accept his "Comey treatment of Hillary" excuse at face value!
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    I'm curious. Are there any Trump supporters here willing to agree to an extended, thoughtful, non-dismissive, fact-based look at the publicly-disclosed facts of the Trump-Russia case? Something informally one-on-one, perhaps?
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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    Are we now expected to take Trump at his word - that he has totally reversed his position, for reasons unknown, and had Comey fired for his mean treatment of Hillary Clinton 9 months ago?

    If the FBI, Senate and House investigations are all "bogus," that effectively eliminates many of the constitutional checks and balances designed to curb the abuse of presidential power.

    Given Republican majorities in the House and Senate, who control both of the investigative committees, Trump has in effect declared war on his own party!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    I'm curious. Are there any Trump supporters here willing to agree to an extended, thoughtful, non-dismissive, fact-based look at the publicly-disclosed facts of the Trump-Russia case? Something informally one-on-one, perhaps?
    I live in Missouri, the Show-Me state, Show me the evidence !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    I live in Missouri, the Show-Me state, Show me the evidence !!!
    In 1899, Rep. Willard D. Vandiver said, "Frothy eloquence neither convinces nor satisfies me. I'm from Missouri. You've got to show me."
    If the only thing you'll accept is a smoking gun, you'll probably have to wait for the conclusion of the FBI's investigation. That seems to be ramping up, but who knows how long it will take.
    Global warming denialists are like gravity denialists piloting a helicopter, determined to prove a point. We may not have time to actually persuade them of their mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    I live in Missouri, the Show-Me state, Show me the evidence !!!


    Where was "patrick jane's" newfound SHOW ME attitude when President Trump accused former President Obama of "wiretapping" Trump Towers?

    This President has yet to produce the so-called evidence that he claims exists!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    If the only thing you'll accept is a smoking gun, you'll probably have to wait for the conclusion of the FBI's investigation. That seems to be ramping up, but who knows how long it will take.
    True, I've seen some peripheral Russian contact but nothing implicating Trump. We'll have to wait and see.
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