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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Collusion is a big fat nothing burger
    IF that were true, he wouldn't keep firing those who heading the investigations. He wants to control all of the judges, prosecutors, etc.... like all wanna-be dictators. What he did is eerily similar to how Richard Nixon responded when his corruption being investigated.
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    it's going to get much harder for the Democrats to maintain their conspiracy theory once they find out that the new interm FBI director is a well connected Democrat whose wife ran for a state senate seat as a democrat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    IF that were true, he wouldn't keep firing those who heading the investigations. He wants to control all of the judges, prosecutors, etc.... like all wanna-be dictators. What he did is eerily similar to how Richard Nixon responded when his corruption being investigated.
    he only fired Comey after 6 months at such a pace it would take him at least 20 years to gain complete control

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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Irrelevant quote
    That does not stop US law, which was used and enforced by President Obama, and many before him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffblue101 View Post
    he only fired Comey after 6 months
    When he realized he could not control him. EOS. And the era of the Trump Corruption continues. For now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    When he realized he could not control him. EOS.
    From the NYT:

    Comey Fired Because He Could Bring Down a President


    From The Cipher Brief:

    General Michael Hayden, Former Director, CIA and NSA:

    Iím very surprised and stunned as anyone. And I was puzzled by the public explanation of the firing. The explanation was what he did last summer with regard to the Hillary Clinton email investigation. If that was really the cause, the time to release him would have been in January during the transition. So Iím puzzled why weíre doing this now. The thought I had is that Comey is his own man Ė his critics would say to a fault Ė and maybe there was some fearólike he did last summer, acting independent of the Attorney Generalóthere was fear from the Administration that he might do the same thing with regard to the Russia investigation.

    I mean Iím purely speculating here. Iím trying to avoid the conclusion that weíve become Nicaragua.


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    The main factor was the fact that "Huma Abedin forwarded hundreds or thousands of emails to her husband Anthony Weiner, some of them classified, was wrong". And Comey did not suggest indictment. Or for the private email server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    He didn't have a problem with that for six full months. He's feeling the heat from the FBI, and he used the closest vaguely defensible tool to get rid of the problem. There's something called a "pretext".

    Comey has bungled so many aspects of his job, I honestly think he's lost a lot of credibility. But actually the letter Sessions sent to Trump (I would bet within the last few hours) mis-characterized the actions related to Clinton's emails. Sessions claimed that Comey had usurped the roll of Department of Justice prosecutors. However, Loretta Lynch had decided to defer to Comey's decisions, in part because she was perceived to have a conflict of interest. Sessions seems to reopen that decision, but it was a decision undertaken by the previous AJ, and he has no business going back and trying to somehow cancel it retroactively. He certainly can disagree with it, but he can't just change what was ordered at the time.
    This all leads back to the Trump campaign/Russia connection, so what happened to Sessions recusing himself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    The main factor was the fact that "Huma Abedin forwarded hundreds or thousands of emails to her husband Anthony Weiner, some of them classified, was wrong". And Comey did not suggest indictment. Or for the private email server.
    If that was true, then Trump would have let him go in the transition - not now, not when Trump's afraid of where the Russia inquiry is headed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rexlunae View Post
    Jeff Sessions was supposed to be recused from all matters related to Hillary Clinton's email investigation. His involvement here has to be investigated.
    On the more positive note, when all is said and done, Sessions will forever be linked to Trump (the most corrupt president in history). The new "anti-health, let's give the rich a tax break instead ofhealth-care plan* was bad enough.
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    Comey was the head of the FBI in January of 2016 when Robert LaVoy Finicum was shot and killed by the FBI Hostage Rescue Team and the Oregon State Police.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...defense_l.html

    "Defense lawyers in the Oregon standoff case want a federal judge to compel the government to turn over records from its investigation into the apparent firing of gunshots by a FBI Hostage Rescue Team member at Robert "LaVoy'' Finicum and alleged tampering with shell casings after the Jan. 26 encounter."

    "They also need the investigative reports to establish the "bias and animosity'' of the elite FBI Hostage Rescue Team officers "directly involved in the shooting and subsequent cover-up,"

    The killing of Finicum was called a "Shoot-Out" by many in the Mainstream Media, but the FBI released a video taken from a helicopter over the scene of the FBI and Oregon State Police shooting. In addition, the FBI released a video taken with a cell phone inside Finicum's truck by Shawna Cox who was a passenger in the truck. Her video, especially the sound track, shows that the agents fired into Finicum's vehicle for several minutes after he was killed just outside the vehicle in the snow. The Cox video shows no attempt by the people left inside the vehicle to shoot back at the officers and agents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    Hillary spent 1.1 Billion Dollars on her campaign.
    and still lost!

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    But so far, Trump is the best President ever !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    This all leads back to the Trump campaign/Russia connection, so what happened to Sessions recusing himself?
    I'd bet that whatever conspiracy has occurred, Sessions is probably on the inside of it. He seems to break the rules at just the right moment. The IG should look into his involvement.

    Speaking of which, there was apparently an open IG investigation on Comey's behavior. If this was really about that, why not wait for the IG's report?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClimateSanity View Post
    I have no idea what you are blabbering on about in your lengthy response to your first quote of me.
    Well, I can't help you much there. You need to understand what I said in order to understand what's going on. But the bottom line is this:

    If the article from Breitbart is right about Trump's motivation, and it seems likely that they are given that they're almost a mouthpiece for Trump, then it's a problem for Trump. If he fired Comey in an attempt to shut down the FBI's lawful investigation, then it's probably obstruction of justice. Even if the investigation had no merit and was unreasonable, that doesn't mean you can interfere with it. But the fact that at least one of the investigations has just yielded its first subpoenas the very same day suggests that there is merit to it.

    So, to recap, if the obvious is true, and Trump fired Comey to try to stop their investigation into his Russia connections, that is probably a fresh, new crime, committed yesterday by Trump, regardless of the merits of the FBI investigation.
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    http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/...d-obama-to-do/
    Said Hoekstra on Trump firing Comey, Democrats “are now in a very awkward position. They have a President that they don’t like who did exactly what they wish their president, President Obama, had done months ago and that is fire James Comey. And now it’s kind of like, well, what are we supposed to do now? How are we supposed to react to this?”

    Hoekstra continued to mock the Democrats, adding, “We don’t like anything that Donald Trump does. That’s our standard operating procedure and he’s now done exactly what we’ve been asking for for months. So, we have to now come up with a rationale why we don’t like this decision and why all of a sudden James Comey is our hero
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    Hoekstra also said he felt Comey had become a distraction for the FBI and a liability to its reputation and the firing was appropriate. He also said Obama would have fired Comey before Hillary Clinton took office had she won in November, allowing her to pick her own director.

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