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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye. View Post
    Marhig... really? Seriously?

    You... can't... make... this... up.
    Can't make what up? What's wrong with what I said? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhig View Post
    So what do you think of this?

    Revelation 3:9

    Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

    Are they God?
    They are Islam... Arians... They deny Jesus (Name above all names... AKA... GOD) came in the flesh.

    Good luck with that.
    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye. View Post
    Rotfl... your body is your express image!?!

    You can't make this up! OMGoodness!!!

    Image... "an optical counterpart or appearance of an object, as is produced by reflection from a mirror, refraction by a lens, or the passage of luminous rays through a small aperture and their reception on a surface."

    Express means ONLY ONE.

    Rotfl...

    I can't take it any more!?!? Rotflmbo!?!?!?!?
    Is the image the actual object?

    If you see the picture of clouds in still pools of water, are the pools of water the clouds? Or do they show an image of the clouds? Or do the pools of water which received the water from the clouds show a reflection of them? Or does that make them the actual clouds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhig View Post
    Can't make what up? What's wrong with what I said? Thanks
    There is no world where you don't deny Christ. You're like... "ehhhh"... it's not a big deal...

    But you would deny what Immanuel means and believe blasphemous Daqq over Jesus, Paul, John and ALL scripture!

    (Is. 9:6). But you don't BELIEVE! You would wait for lying Daqq to retranslate it, when Daqq is a Greek retard posing!?! Daqq sucks at translation!

    Wake up call!

    Is. 9:6 is the real deal! To see the Son is LITERALLY TO HAVE SEEN THE FATHER.

    He's The presence and Image/Body of the Father!?!

    Rotfl... you are so blind it is funny!
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    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye. View Post
    They are Islam... Arians... They deny Jesus (Name above all names... AKA... GOD) came in the flesh.

    Good luck with that.
    No answer then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhig View Post
    Is the image the actual object?

    If you see the picture of clouds in still pools of water, are the pools of water the clouds? Or do they show an image of the clouds? Or do the pools of water which received the water from the clouds show a reflection of them? Or does that make them the actual clouds?
    Oh no..... bwahhhhhhhhh !!!! You really can't hear how rediculous you sound.

    Mirror image is you!!! It's your reflection. Rotfl... tearsssss
    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beameup View Post
    He became a MAN in the womb of Mary and was born in Bethlehem. As God, He joined Himself eternally to MAN. In other words, God voluntarily and eternally changed Himself by entering the world through the birth-canal of a woman.
    Pretty simple, straight-forward, and fully described in the Bible. Perhaps the Bible is just not for you.
    BTW, it's called the hypostatic union and it's doctrinal dogma from the resurrection onward.
    Roman Catholic doctrine denying the need of the cross.
    My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhig View Post
    No answer then?
    Lol.... I just did! Correlate the location of that church to modern day and tell me the location of it.
    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    Roman Catholic doctrine denying the need of the cross.
    LA... you know Beameup exalts Christ's work on the cross. You'll have to go another route.
    Last edited by Evil.Eye.<(I)>; May 9th, 2017 at 01:40 AM.
    Open (Beyond Time ...1 Ki. 8:27) Relational to us within Time (John 1:1)
    Dispensational (2 Ti. 2:15)
    It's All About Jesus and He's the theology (John 5:39f)
    Biblical (2 Ti. 3:16)
    Zionist (Rm. 11:25-36)
    There is only one Commentary!
    (1 John 2:27; Rm. 8:9; Php. 1:19; Mt. 23:8)

    Salvation is Free (Eph. 2:8f) !!! It depends on his strength, not mine!!! (2 Co. 12:9)

    Stupid things Tet says...

    Quote Originally Posted by tetelestai View Post
    The old heavens and old earth was the law and the Old Covenant.

    The new heavens and new earth is the New Covenant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye. View Post
    There is no world where you don't deny Christ. You're like... "ehhhh"... it's not a big deal...

    But you would deny what Immanuel means and believe blasphemous Daqq over Jesus, Paul, John and ALL scripture!

    (Is. 9:6). But you don't BELIEVE! You would wait for lying Daqq to retranslate it, when Daqq is a Greek retard posing!?! Daqq sucks at translation!

    Wake up call!

    Is. 9:6 is the real deal! To see the Son is LITERALLY TO HAVE SEEN THE FATHER.

    He's The presence and Image/Body of the Father!?!

    Rotfl... you are so blind it is funny!
    I don't have to only believe Daqq,

    Daqq and I believe our Lord Jesus himself!

    This is Jesus himself speaking!

    Life eternal is this to know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.(John 17:1-3 KJV)

    I go unto the Father, for my Father is greater than I.(John 14:28 KJV)

    I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. (John 5:30 KJV)

    Touch me not, for I am not yet ascended to my Father I ascend unto my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.(John 20:17 KJV)

    You don't seem to believe those verses? Yet they are Jesus' own words!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    LA... you know Beamup exalts Christ's work on the cross. You'll have to go another route.
    If you claim the Almighty God was united with man in the womb of Mary then you teach Roman Catholic doctrine, which the trinity doctrine is.

    You are blinded by church doctrine.

    You need to enter the Kingdom of God which is far above your childish church doctrines , learnt from the minds of blind men.

    Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.



    LA
    My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye.<(I)> View Post
    Islam is Arian. Your warshield seems more bloody than our warshield.

    Say... what do you get when you cross an Arian with a bible Corrector?
    Give up... Daqq! It's you!

    And... SON of GOD... Immanuel... which still means God With Us... no matter how many times you twist scripture.
    Islam? That is just another low blow and an obvious false accusation, so what is new? By the way, Arius won the debate so your heretical harlot mother church deliberately changed the scripture, and that is plain as day, as already shown in one of my threads. "This day I have begotten you" was used by Arius from Matthew and Luke in his arguments. And since ya'll got beaten to a pulp by what was written in the scriptures at that time; you started altering the scripture, killing people, and forcing everyone at the point of a spear to accept your pagan Romanized dogma, (that is, a spear in one hand and a Trinitarian war shield in the other, lol).

    Arian Controversy and Council Of Nicea Explains Alterations
    It was only post 325 A.D. that the standard texts of Matthew and Luke were revised to omit "today I have begotten thee" from Jesus' baptism by John-the-Baptist. You will not find it any longer in the KJV, ASV, NIV, etc. This was because of the controversy with Arius in 306 A.D. who claimed the 'begotten' passages meant Jesus was not the "Eternal Son of God." However, the Roman Catholic church by 325 A.D. felt it was imperative to assert this about Jesus even though no verse in the NT ever calls Jesus the 'eternal Son of God.' For background, see Wayne A. Grudem, Systematic theology: an introduction to biblical doctrine (Zondervan, 1994) at 243.

    Hence, words from the original account were let slip in reproductions, to the point we do not any longer see them in our NT. But it never made any sense. To say Jesus was the "Eternal Son" begotten of God, as was developed in the 300s and beyond, was a contradiction in terms. As Adam Clarke, a Methodist, explained in his commentary:

    "…it is demonstrated that the doctrine of the eternal Sonship of Christ is absolutely irreconcilable to reason, and contradictory to itself. ETERNITY is that which has had no beginning, nor stands in any reference to time: SON supposes time, generation, and father; and time also antecedent to such generation: therefore the rational conjunction of these two terms, Son and eternity, is absolutely impossible, as they imply essentially different and opposite ideas" (Adam Clarke Commentary).

    Hence, at Jesus's water baptism, God-the-Father gave Jesus a new birth as Son of God (a unique status), declaring from heaven "This day I have begotten thee." This was an example of how baptism would have similar effects on ourselves although obviously we would not become Divine as Jesus uniquely was indwelled by the Father/Word. (John 1:1, 14:10.)

    Incidentally, the Talmud post-Christ -- a work of Jewish scribes -- preserved that Jewish scholars pre-Christ always said this would be how God Yahweh would address Messiah:

    "Our Rabbis taught, The Holy One, Blessed be He, will say to
    the Messiah, the Son of David (may he reveal himself speedily in our
    day), 'Ask of me anything, and I will give it thee,' as it is said, 'I will
    tell of the decree,' erc., 'this day have I begotten thee, ask of me and I
    will give the nations for thy inheritance.''' (Talmud, Sukkah 52)

    (quoted in Problems of Bible Translation (1954) at page 145 (PDF link)

    https://www.jesuswordsonly.com/books...l-account.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    Roman Catholic doctrine denying the need of the cross.
    The God-Man is fully explained by Apostle Paul.
    The Early Church Fathers taught the God-Man.
    So, at a later date, it was given a nomenclature.
    Better luck next time. You are obviously &

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye. View Post
    Oh no..... bwahhhhhhhhh !!!! You really can't hear how rediculous you sound.

    Mirror image is you!!! It's your reflection. Rotfl... tearsssss
    Nope, my reflection isn't me. It's a reflection of me.

    Once we are born of God, we are in the image of Christ. Does that make us Christ?

    Romans 8

    *And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinateto be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil.Eye. View Post
    Lol.... I just did! Correlate the location of that church to modern day and tell me the location of it.
    What's that got to do with anything that I said?

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