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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleMan77 View Post
    I didn't know the final judge was on here. You shine a bad light on whatever point you're trying to make.


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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Truster is a messenger for Satan. Satan lies, slanders, accuses and condemns.
    Strong words. Most of the time (unless you know that you know you are in the Spirit) when you make this type of insult/accusation, it says more about you than the person you are insulting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    Are you seriously suggesting that the unregenerate hypocrites are going to glory?

    Are you suggesting blind guides and those that follow them will not end up in the pit?

    Are you denying Rev 20:14 and the judgement of the wicked?

    You might prefer to send someone to hell with a lie in their right hand, but I will warn them and if in receiving the warning they repent not, then their end is confirmed.

    You say that Messiah never said that anyone would go to Hell. So where, in your opinion, does the broad way lead?

    Matt 5:29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

    Matt 10:28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

    Matt 11:23 And you, Capernaum! You won’t be lifted up to heaven, will you? You’ll go down to Hell! Because if the miracles that happened in you had taken place in Sodom, it would have remained to this day.

    You are seriously in need of correction, but your stubborn pride will not allow it. Next time you judge someone make sure you are fully versed in scripture before you do.
    If you notice, I said "that I remember", so my statement wasn't wrong. I do stand corrected on the Capernaum verse.
    There were plenty of times that Jesus said you will go to hell IF you reject him, but that gives a person hope if they change their ways.
    Your statement was simply that a person was going to hell. I don't apologize for saying that you better know that you are IN THE SPIRIT when you say things like that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Truster is a messenger for Satan. Satan lies, slanders, accuses and condemns.
    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleMan77 View Post
    If you notice, I said "that I remember", so my statement wasn't wrong. I do stand corrected on the Capernaum verse.
    There were plenty of times that Jesus said you will go to hell IF you reject him, but that gives a person hope if they change their ways.
    Your statement was simply that a person was going to hell. I don't apologize for saying that you better know that you are IN THE SPIRIT when you say things like that.


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    The one thing I know for an absolute certainty is that you are back peddling and lying. Liars go to hell.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    The one thing I know for an absolute certainty is that you are back peddling and lying. Liars go to hell.
    Lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleMan77 View Post
    Lol.


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    Next to the unrepentant.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Veering back on-track here, the Book of Acts is very efficient with its language (as is all of the Bible).
    Four different times the event of someone receiving the Holy Ghost is spelled out in detail. Acts 2 - the Jews. Acts 8 - the Samaritans. Acts 10 - the Gentiles. Acts 19 - believers who did not have a the fullness of truth.
    In 3 out of 4, the Bible specifically details them speaking with tongues. In the one that doesn't specifically say that they spoke in tongues, it says there was observable evidence that they had received the Holy Ghost (I think it's obvious what that observable evidence was).
    This was not by accident. If Jews, half-Jews, Gentiles, and believers who didn't have the fullness of truth all spoke with tongues when they received the Holy Ghost, and nowhere in Scripture does it say that God would change it, it is still for us today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WeberHome View Post
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    First you claimed that the gifts listed in the 12th chapter of Romans are callings. Now you claim they are enablements. You also claim that they have nothing to do with a manifestation of the Spirit.

    Well; if your enablements don't manifest the Spirit, then whom do they manifest? The Devil? But the apostle Paul says they are gifts according to the grace that is given us.(Rom 12:6)

    FYI: The koiné Greek word for "calling" is klesis (klay'-sis) which refers to invitations rather than gifts.

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    I see you are incapable of explaining the difference between Rom 12 and 1 cor 12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleMan77 View Post
    Strong words. Most of the time (unless you know that you know you are in the Spirit) when you make this type of insult/accusation, it says more about you than the person you are insulting.


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    You have to believe what Jesus says.

    Jesus says the way you judge others is the way you will be judged.

    Truster accuses me of every bad thing and condemns me.

    So then, according to Jesus, it is exactly what Truster is.

    I am kind of surprised that you did not know that.

    You have heard what Truster has said to me, and you seem to know scriptures...so how is it you falsely judged me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleMan77 View Post
    If you notice, I said "that I remember", so my statement wasn't wrong. I do stand corrected on the Capernaum verse.
    There were plenty of times that Jesus said you will go to hell IF you reject him, but that gives a person hope if they change their ways.
    Your statement was simply that a person was going to hell. I don't apologize for saying that you better know that you are IN THE SPIRIT when you say things like that.


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    According to Jesus, Truster has condemned himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    The one thing I know for an absolute certainty is that you are back peddling and lying. Liars go to hell.
    You have exposed yourself as being a liar and one going to hell.

    That is according to the written Word of God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleMan77 View Post
    Veering back on-track here, the Book of Acts is very efficient with its language (as is all of the Bible).
    Four different times the event of someone receiving the Holy Ghost is spelled out in detail. Acts 2 - the Jews. Acts 8 - the Samaritans. Acts 10 - the Gentiles. Acts 19 - believers who did not have a the fullness of truth.
    In 3 out of 4, the Bible specifically details them speaking with tongues.Agai In the one that doesn't specifically say that they spoke in tongues, it says there was observable evidence that they had received the Holy Ghost (I think it's obvious what that observable evidence was).
    This was not by accident. If Jews, half-Jews, Gentiles, and believers who didn't have the fullness of truth all spoke with tongues when they received the Holy Ghost, and nowhere in Scripture does it say that God would change it, it is still for us today.


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    Again, speaking in tongues were for a sign during the laying of the foundation. The sign has been given and the foundation has been laid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleMan77 View Post
    Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
    Offer scripture for your opinion that God doesn't allow the same type of miracles. Show scripture for where the promise of the exact gift the apostles received was retracted (the promise that is "to you, and your children, and all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call").


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    She can't

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon View Post
    She can't

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    You go against me because I show easily with scripture that tongues have ceased.

    Simpleman77 made a mistake and you joined in on his mistake because the two of you want to hold your babbling gibberish to high esteem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You go against me because I show easily with scripture that tongues have ceased.

    Simpleman77 made a mistake and you joined in on his mistake because the two of you want to hold your babbling gibberish to high esteem.
    So you can not show from scripture that requested from you.
    My theology is that the elect of Israel became the scattered church among the nations, and when filled up with the full number of gentiles who believe to become one with them, then Christ will return and gather them, and God will then pour out His wrath on the unbelievers of both Jew and Gentile.

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