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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    I was dead for 43 years.

    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of Elohim: and they that hear shall live."


    GT always misses the spiritual aspect.


    Wait for the insults...wait...wait...
    Of course you miss the scriptures and are trying to distort yet another.

    Jesus raised the PHYSICALLY DEAD Lazarus who was dead for four days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleMan77 View Post
    These scriptures only say that God confirmed His word with signs and wonders. No where does the Bible say that God would ever stop confirming His word that way.
    Yes, we are built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets. That only underscores the fact that it is of utmost importance that our doctrine and "acts" are consistent with theirs.
    It makes absolutely no sense to say "the apostles and prophets are our foundation, so therefore we should have experiences and theology that is different than theirs". Especially when there are those in the modern age that can tell you they've experienced the same Holy Ghost that was poured out at Pentecost.
    I readily admit there are counterfeits, but the real Holy Ghost - the one that was poured out in Acts 2, Acts 8, Acts 19 - is still being poured out.


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    It is simple, God testified to the message. Has all of the message been given? Yes.
    Every miracle wasn't to validate a new message - it was to validate the same message to people who hadn't yet heard it.
    Are you saying that there are no people to whom the gospel is a new message?



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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Of course you miss the scriptures and are trying to distort yet another.

    Jesus raised the PHYSICALLY DEAD Lazarus who was dead for four days.
    That is the only resurrection you'll experience. Unto damnation...

    We* look forward to the second resurrection unto eternal bliss...


    (We* those that have experienced the first resurrection giving us regeneration and repentance.)



    Unto Him who hath loved us* and washed us* from sin, unto Him be the glory forever, amen.

    (us* see above.)
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    That is the only resurrection you'll experience. Unto damnation...

    We* look forward to the second resurrection unto eternal bliss...


    (We* those that have experienced the first resurrection giving us regeneration and repentance.)



    Unto Him who hath loved us* and washed us* from sin, unto Him be the glory forever, amen.

    (us* see above.)
    Jesus and the apostles could raise those who were PHYSICALLY dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleMan77 View Post
    Every miracle wasn't to validate a new message - it was to validate the same message to people who hadn't yet heard it.
    Are you saying that there are no people to whom the gospel is a new message?



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    The miracles and signs was God testifying to what the apostles said.

    It was DURING the LAYING of the foundation.

    God has already testified, and the foundation has already been laid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus and the apostles could raise those who were PHYSICALLY dead.
    If you are trying to make a point please do so. Capitals denote shouting. Why are you shouting? Tantrum?

    PS we are still waiting for a testimony and to find out if you are ready to admit that you are a sinner.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    If you are trying to make a point please do so. Capitals denote shouting. Why are you shouting? Tantrum?

    PS we are still waiting for a testimony and to find out if you are ready to admit that you are a sinner.
    You think wrong about everything. I am drawing attention to the word you keep ignoring. We are not talking about how you think you were dead. I am talking about miracles of raising someone PHYSICALLY dead for four days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You think wrong about everything. I am drawing attention to the word you keep ignoring. We are not talking about how you think you were dead. I am talking about miracles of raising someone PHYSICALLY dead for four days.
    And...?

    Do you really think that we are unaware of what Messiah and the apostles did? Your posts on this matter are so blatantly obvious they don't warrant an acknowledgement.

    What we are waiting for is a TESTIMONY.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    The miracles and signs was God testifying to what the apostles said.

    It was DURING the LAYING of the foundation.

    God has already testified, and the foundation has already been laid.
    Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
    Offer scripture for your opinion that God doesn't allow the same type of miracles. Show scripture for where the promise of the exact gift the apostles received was retracted (the promise that is "to you, and your children, and all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call").


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    That is the only resurrection you'll experience. Unto damnation...
    I didn't know the final judge was on here. You shine a bad light on whatever point you're trying to make.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleMan77 View Post
    I didn't know the final judge was on here. You shine a bad light on whatever point you're trying to make.


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    By their fruit ye shall know them. Her fruit are a bowl of lies.

    I can't help but notice that you are judging me, but I expect that is OK, by you. Hypocrite fits the bill.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

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    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    By their fruit ye shall know them. Her fruit are a bowl of lies.

    I can't help but notice that you are judging me, but I expect that is OK, by you. Hypocrite fits the bill.
    Even Jesus never said "you will go to hell" that I can remember. I believe the closest He came was to ask the question "how can you escape the damnation of hell".

    My statement stands without need for correction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleMan77 View Post
    Even Jesus never said "you will go to hell" that I can remember. I believe the closest He came was to ask the question "how can you escape the damnation of hell".

    My statement stands without need for correction.


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    Are you seriously suggesting that the unregenerate hypocrites are going to glory?

    Are you suggesting blind guides and those that follow them will not end up in the pit?

    Are you denying Rev 20:14 and the judgement of the wicked?

    You might prefer to send someone to hell with a lie in their right hand, but I will warn them and if in receiving the warning they repent not, then their end is confirmed.

    You say that Messiah never said that anyone would go to Hell. So where, in your opinion, does the broad way lead?

    Matt 5:29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.

    Matt 10:28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

    Matt 11:23 And you, Capernaum! You won’t be lifted up to heaven, will you? You’ll go down to Hell! Because if the miracles that happened in you had taken place in Sodom, it would have remained to this day.

    You are seriously in need of correction, but your stubborn pride will not allow it. Next time you judge someone make sure you are fully versed in scripture before you do.
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleMan77 View Post
    Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
    Offer scripture for your opinion that God doesn't allow the same type of miracles. Show scripture for where the promise of the exact gift the apostles received was retracted (the promise that is "to you, and your children, and all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call").


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    I repeated myself because you asked questions I had already addressed.

    As for scriptures, I already gave them too.
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