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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    I I I I I I nevermind. Just wow

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    My origanal point was that the democrats are lying about the taxes as they did with Reagan, more than eight years before you ever expressed concern for the debt on TOL. I haven't analyzed the tax plan, maybe you have time to do that. You brought up spending cuts and basically ignored my post. So, nevermind. Just wow
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    I expected that.....you don't have the 1st clue on how this economy works..

    You haven't looked at the plan, so in reality you have no idea if it's good or not, yet you will support it any any cost, because Why? Trump. Trump is dumber than a box of rocks on this issue..Reagan was dumber than a box of rocks on this issue, Obama was dumber than a box of rocks on this issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    I expected that.....you don't have the 1st clue on how this economy works..

    You haven't looked at the plan, so in reality you have no idea if it's good or not, yet you will support it any any cost, because Why? Trump. Trump is dumber than a box of rocks on this issue..Reagan was dumber than a box of rocks on this issue, Obama was dumber than a box of rocks on this issue

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    Not everybody is against both parties like you, btw, are you really a Doctor? You know the economy and how it works? You must be a millionaire. I would say that I know as much or more about the economy and how it works as the average American. I've heard quite a bit from MISES, Ron Paul and other economic schools of thought. I also know enough about this tax plan to see and hear the democrats lying about it. Tell me how you would solve the debt and structure taxes, genius
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    I expected that.....you don't have the 1st clue on how this economy works..

    You haven't looked at the plan, so in reality you have no idea if it's good or not, yet you will support it any any cost, because Why? Trump. Trump is dumber than a box of rocks on this issue..Reagan was dumber than a box of rocks on this issue, Obama was dumber than a box of rocks on this issue

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    Are the democrats lying about this tax plan or not? I think you're all fired up to talk about the economy and the debt, spending cuts and the pros and cons of this plan but I'm not today. Was my first post today to you? No, but you jump right to spending cuts and ask me for a link.

    Since you like changing the subject, let's hear your ideas for better taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    You nor the demonrats have read squat. If you did you would see you're wrong like the demonrats.
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    I haven't analyzed the tax plan, maybe you have time to do that
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    I also know enough about this tax plan to see and hear the democrats lying about it.
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    You nor the demonrats have read squat. If you did you would see you're wrong like the demonrats.
    Originally Posted by patrick jane
    I haven't analyzed the tax plan, maybe you have time to do that
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    I also know enough about this tax plan to see and hear the democrats lying about it.
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    You're just a **** disturber as far as I'm concerned, always taking peoples' words out of context. Analyze is different than knowing something about it. I know what honest sources say about it, my point to begin with. Grow up, stop watching Wizard Of Oz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    You nor the demonrats have read squat. If you did you would see you're wrong like the demonrats.
    Originally Posted by patrick jane
    I haven't analyzed the tax plan, maybe you have time to do that
    Originally Posted by patrick jane







    I also know enough about this tax plan to see and hear the democrats lying about it.You're just a **** disturber as far as I'm concerned, always taking peoples' words out of context.
    Out of context by directly quoting you regarding what you know and have read or heard about the tax plan?

    You just don't like getting called out for your bluster.

    Analyze is different than knowing something about it. I know what honest sources say about it, my point to begin with.
    You said the 'demonrats' didn't even read it yet you didn't even read it. You just like to parrot what your preferred sources say about it.
    You're only confirming your bias and not learning a damn thing.

    Which honest sources can you cite?

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politi...ans/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    Out of context by directly quoting you regarding what you know and have read or heard about the tax plan?

    You just don't like getting called out for your bluster.



    You said the 'demonrats' didn't even read it yet you didn't even read it. You just like to parrot what your preferred sources say about it.
    You're only confirming your bias and not learning a damn thing.

    Which honest sources can you cite?

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    The demonrats were lying before it was released. I watched press conferences and FOX News, honest sources. Out of context is exactly what you do when you select quotes from conversations that don't include you and imply bluster. jgarden gets his information from cartoons it seems, not unlike the lying demonrats. Your bias is also plain to see, at least I don't try to hide mine and I was replying to jgarden not you. If he wants to call my "bluster" let him do it, he's a grown boy. Then you jump into dr brumley and my conversation where he changed the subject too. I'm done with you play babies. Enjoy Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz View Post
    not learning a damn thing.
    I learn on my time not yours btw.
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    I changed the subject? All I did was ask you if Trump was going to cut spending...your reply seemed to be "who cares about spending...its no big deal,"

    Well, it is a BIG DEAL!

    You said you read Mises, You must not agree with him. Because your saying everything opposite of him.

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    Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

    Since you don't want to talk about federal HIV/AIDS programs, how about the high cost of recreational drug use?

    The economic cost alone is immense, estimated at nearly $215 billion [2008 statistic]


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    I'm fine with talking about anything you want to.
    I posted two beloved Libertarian behaviors that cost the US taxpayer an enormous amount of money. If you're really interested in cutting the size of government, and hence taxation, you would agree that those behaviors need to be curtailed...

    but then that would go against Libertarian doctrine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Your bias is also plain to see,
    To all but himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

    Since you don't want to talk about federal HIV/AIDS programs, how about the high cost of recreational drug use?

    The economic cost alone is immense, estimated at nearly $215 billion [2008 statistic]




    I posted two beloved Libertarian behaviors that cost the US taxpayer an enormous amount of money. If you're really interested in cutting the size of government, and hence taxation, you would agree that those behaviors need to be curtailed...

    but then that would go against Libertarian doctrine.
    Only in your warped mind

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    I know where I'd start cuts. It seems rather obvious once it's laid out in front of you







    For anyone who doesn't care about debt and deficits


    Even as deficits have fallen, debt held by the public has continued to rise, growing from $5.0 trillion in 2007 and $7.5 trillion in 2009 to $13.1 trillion today. As a share of GDP, debt rose from 35 percent in 2007 to about 74 percent in 2014 and 2015.

    Both deficits and debt are projected to rise over the next decade and beyond, with trillion-dollar deficits returning by 2025 or sooner and debt exceeding the size of the economy before 2040, and as soon as 2031



    Balance the budget!
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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Question, is Trump, along with his tax cut proposals also proposing cutting spending? If so, can you link to It? Please.

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    Here's one.

    Personally, I think there should be more.

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